This is @Justabaker17, live tweeting this afternoon from the Maya Forstater Tribunal. After lunch, testimony will continue from Luke Eastman. Here is a link to his witness statements.
Abbreviations used
BC = Ben Cooper QC, counsel for the claimant,
MF = Maya Forstater, claimant
AP = Anya Palmer, assisting BC
OD = Olivia Dobbie, counsel for respondents
EJ = Employment judge, leading the panel
Panel = any of the 3 panel members.
Expecting to resume at 2 pm.
CGDE (CGD Europe) – Respondent 1
CGD = Centre for Global Development – Respondent 2
MA = Masood Ahmed, President of CGD and Chair of the Board of CGDE – Respondent 3
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We hope to be live tweeting anonymous PQ vs civil servant Andreas Mueller and others from Leeds ET shortly.
Mr Mueller is being taken to this employment tribunal for making gender critical statements and for being a founding member of the Sex Equality and Equity Network (SEEN)
in the Civil Service (SEEN CS).
A colleague (PQ) is taking Mueller, a government department and the Arms-Length Body (ALB) where he works to an Employment Tribunal. The claimant is also seeking to shut down the SEEN CS staff network.
The case relates to the establishment of the civil service SEEN network.
Yesterday's private session overran into today's. We are therefore not sure what time the public hearing will start today.
Afternoon part 2:
RW: Discussing nature of 'necessary' - many attempts by law lords to nail this down - plainly a much higher test than 'desirable and reasonable'
RW: But - we are talking about discrimination here
There *have* been tests that vary by size of an organisation but those have largely fallen away and, discrimination is discrimination.
RW - pos one adopts to play break shot, bend over the table,
EH - stance is an imp part of break shot
RW - strength in stance is relative strength
EH - to the extent that you are balancing against gravity
RW - you need to balance urself againt gravity when bent
EH - you have to resist falling over
RW - not just not falling over, hold a very stable position
EH - not all players use a stable break position, they are dynamic and use absolute strength
RW - so it depnds on stance
EH - putting all movement through shoulder and arm is abs
Good morning. We will be reporting from Day 5 of the Harriet Haynes (HH) vs the English Blackball Pool Federation from 10 am. A male player who claims a female identity has brought a discrimination case against the EBPF after being barred from competing in women’s tournaments.
HH is claiming discrimination on the grounds of the protected characteristic of gender reassignment.
See our previous coverage on our Substack here:
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Harriet Haynes vs Paul Thomson & Anna Goodwin (English Blackball Pool Federation - Chairman & Secretary)Pool Federation Challenged Over Female-Only Rule Changehttps://open.substack.com/pub/tribunaltweets/p/harriet-haynes-vs-paul-thomson-and?r=1gxdhb
J Dr A - you are still with us
DA I am
J Okay. May I start by asking c ppl you've taught. Over 1000. What sort of level? Beginners/ more advanced
DA All of the above. Ppl who have never played up to pro level players
J Pro level comparable to HH?
DA Top ppl bit higher than HH.
DA Fargo rates above 700
J Your evidence - I imagine your advice to any player would be to go for fastest break speed poss while keeping control.
DA Y. Never use more power than you can control on beak.
J That's negatively. But would advice be to use as much as poss?