“This case appears to confirm the concerns that the CD4+ T-cell depletion associated with COVID-19 may promote the development of active tuberculosis from latent infection much like HIV does.”
🔴EBV reactivation
🔴Possible TB reactivation
🔴Possible reduced ability to manage adenovirus
🔴Possible increased susceptibility to mould infections
You can’t see a pattern?
Acquired immune deficiency.
That’s what we call it.
When you start off with a standard immune system, and then you end up in a situation where you can’t fight off pathogens, or even ubiquitous environmental bugs that we basically can’t avoid.
I sit in my house, poring through research and case reports, and sometimes it makes me feel physically sick with worry.
The good news is we have already got some antivirals, and I think we will get more therapies. ->
Don’t freak out and give up hope… but do work hard on prevention.
Immune deficiency can be mild, or more severe… and just because a virus shares some characteristics with other viruses, doesn’t make it the same, nor does it mean it’s “engineered”.
Also, I am going to get badly trolled for these thoughts, so I’m going to mute. Sorry.
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It’s not unusual to have a suppressed immune system after a viral infection. The question is how well it recovers.
The problem with COVID-19 is that people are getting unusual infections weeks and months after infection, and the period between infections can be short.
That makes it harder to “recover” between acute bouts, and there is also a negative longer term trajectory due to a superantigen stimulating the immune system too much.
Right, you had a brief break from viruses… just one year… maybe a year and a half… then we gave you a virus, and it made you unwell, then we gave you lots of viruses, and it made you more unwell… so what we need to do is keep giving you lots of viruses until you feel better.
Just for the record, babies in utero would still have been born with maternal antibodies to previous pathogens, lots of non COVID pathogens were not controlled (like the RSV outbreaks), adenovirus is endemic and we carry it for longer than a year and half…
There are a handful of pathogens that genuinely have reduced in circulation, like flu, and so immunisation is more important now… but we didn’t actually go into a sterile vacuum. Our commensals and many non-COVID pathogens are still with us.
“…severity of Ad4 infections in outbreaks appears to depend more on preexisting conditions in patients than on genetically determined, viral virulence factors…”
“Innate immune responses can create a state of adenoviral persistence, and repression of these host defenses can result in reactivation and dissemination of infection.”
I think it would be good if people stop asking family members of vulnerable people when they will unmask and go on holiday… and what their off ramp is.
Like… is off ramp code for bumping off the vulnerable person in the household? Exit strategy via coffin?
The faster everyone accepts that some of us can’t even go to a dentist without a risk benefit analysis, let alone a dinner party, the happier we will all be.
Do I walk around asking you about your personal choice not to mask? What makes you think you can ask me why I do mask? I know that tone says you aren’t actually interested in the answer.