Sex in Toilets 🧵
How being inclusive of M in F toilet nearly cost me my life.
& how Josh Dixon @JoshDixonTweets of Haringey Liberal Democrats @HaringeyLibDems in Crouch End heard this & said M belong in F spaces if they are trans.
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How being inclusive of M in F toilet nearly cost me my life.
& how Josh Dixon @JoshDixonTweets of Haringey Liberal Democrats @HaringeyLibDems in Crouch End heard this & said M belong in F spaces if they are trans.
Please RT.
#LocalElections2022
#RespectMySex
2/ I asked his definition of a woman.
Josh said he’s not a biologist.
I winced & said he’s also not a US Supreme Court Nominee dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1… ]
He then said a woman is whoever identifies as a woman.
Josh said he’s not a biologist.
I winced & said he’s also not a US Supreme Court Nominee dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1… ]
He then said a woman is whoever identifies as a woman.
3/ I asked Josh how, as a councillor, he will protect girls & women in council-run schools and public spaces if anyone can self-id as a woman?
womenarehuman.com/girl-guiding-p…
I said I found M in F spaces distressing because of an attack on me many years ago.
womenarehuman.com/girl-guiding-p…
I said I found M in F spaces distressing because of an attack on me many years ago.
4/ As I washed my hands, the attacker put his head around a cubicle door & asked if this was the F loos. I said yes. He went back into the cubicle.
I was a liberal, inclusive & very naive young woman.
I was unfazed.
I didn’t run or scream.
I bent down to drink from the tap…
I was a liberal, inclusive & very naive young woman.
I was unfazed.
I didn’t run or scream.
I bent down to drink from the tap…
5/ The shot hit me.
Then a knife at my throat.
…
I kept my cool. And lived.
He got several years added to a life sentence.
Then a knife at my throat.
…
I kept my cool. And lived.
He got several years added to a life sentence.
6/ Josh expressed sympathy for my experience.
And then said F only space did not protect me.
I said F only spaces give F permission to challenge M in those spaces. I did not challenge my attacker because I was naive & inclusive of M in F spaces.
And then said F only space did not protect me.
I said F only spaces give F permission to challenge M in those spaces. I did not challenge my attacker because I was naive & inclusive of M in F spaces.
7/ I asked, given the expanding definition of a trans woman, how am I to tell the difference between a predatory M & a genuine trans woman such as Alex Drummond: buzzfeed.com/patrickstrudwi… .
8/ Josh said I should ask the M why he was in the F only space.
I said I wished I had his faith in human nature.
He eventually said he didn’t know how to tell the dif between a predatory M & a real trans identifying M.
But remained adamant that trans ID M belong in F spaces.
I said I wished I had his faith in human nature.
He eventually said he didn’t know how to tell the dif between a predatory M & a real trans identifying M.
But remained adamant that trans ID M belong in F spaces.
9/ I mentioned Karen White, the trans rapist placed in a women’s prison where “she” sexually assaulted two women: fairplayforwomen.com/prison-review/ . Also @ @NoXYinXXprisons
Josh angrily said the issue was lack of safeguarding & transgender rapists belonged in F prison.
Josh angrily said the issue was lack of safeguarding & transgender rapists belonged in F prison.
10/ Josh asked what to do with a dangerous F murderer.
I said she belonged in F prison, w. safeguarding.
But that, on the whole, F are far less dangerous & their prisons are relatively peaceful.
fullfact.org/crime/bad-and-…
I said she belonged in F prison, w. safeguarding.
But that, on the whole, F are far less dangerous & their prisons are relatively peaceful.
fullfact.org/crime/bad-and-…
11/ Josh said my toilet at home was mixed-sex.
I said that my bed at home is also mixed-sex but the only man I was willing to share it with is my husband.
And that my toilet is a locked room: one at a time!
And that strangers do not have access to my toilet.
I said that my bed at home is also mixed-sex but the only man I was willing to share it with is my husband.
And that my toilet is a locked room: one at a time!
And that strangers do not have access to my toilet.
12/ Josh then asked if F toilets should have genital inspectors at the door.
I winced again & said humans can accurately “sex” other humans remarkably accurately. [96% correctly in this study of photos of faces with hair concealed: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8474841/]
I winced again & said humans can accurately “sex” other humans remarkably accurately. [96% correctly in this study of photos of faces with hair concealed: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8474841/]
13/ We both wanted more good gender neutral toilets.
In the meantime Josh said trans ID M should use F toilets.
I disagreed, because the expansive trans umbrella makes it impossible to tell a predatory M from a genuine trans woman - EG thesun.co.uk/news/7322136/o…
In the meantime Josh said trans ID M should use F toilets.
I disagreed, because the expansive trans umbrella makes it impossible to tell a predatory M from a genuine trans woman - EG thesun.co.uk/news/7322136/o…
14/ I also wanted to retain single-sex toilets as far more voyeurism and sexual assaults happen in unisex change rooms than single-sex.: dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6… ]
15/ Josh said he had “listened to the victims” when forming his views that trans identifying M should use F only spaces.
I reminded him that I am a victim of a serious crime & had just told him my story.
I asked which victims he had listened to.
I reminded him that I am a victim of a serious crime & had just told him my story.
I asked which victims he had listened to.
16/ Josh said trans women had suffered harassment or worse in M spaces.
I said we needed to change M behaviour so that trans women are not harassed.
I said women are not human shields.
And F only spaces protect the safety, privacy & dignity of women & girls.
END
I said we needed to change M behaviour so that trans women are not harassed.
I said women are not human shields.
And F only spaces protect the safety, privacy & dignity of women & girls.
END
I would swear in a court of law that those were the points you made Josh. I took notes as soon as you left as I was so flabbergasted at your prioritising trans ID M feelings & safety over the feelings & safety of F every time. Now you block me?
Just realised Josh is Campaigns & Policy Officer at British Association of Social Workers. minutes.haringey.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.…
Social workers do essential & difficult work.
It bothers me that someone who seems so naive about the world is doing this work.
Social workers do essential & difficult work.
It bothers me that someone who seems so naive about the world is doing this work.
PLEASE do not tweet Josh on his BASW twitter account. on my behalf.
I mean it. It would not be fair.
I mean it. It would not be fair.
Interesting: BASW usu celebrate trans day of visibility & trans awareness week, incl trans day of remembrance.
Reality-based transsexual @DebbieHayton re trans day of remembrance: thecritic.co.uk/martyrs-of-the…
She notes it paints a false narrative that trans ppl R under great threat.
Reality-based transsexual @DebbieHayton re trans day of remembrance: thecritic.co.uk/martyrs-of-the…
She notes it paints a false narrative that trans ppl R under great threat.
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