@HesterPeirce has a tough and frustrating job. I get now exactly what she meant when she told @ThinkingCrypto1 that she spends some of her time trying to get her colleagues at the SEC to STOP viewing the token as the security. Read the comment below. 👇
“Something can transform from a security to a non-security.”
Although not incorrect, it is not the proper way to evaluate investment contracts. Any commodity or asset can be offered as a security. There was a case where #BTC was declared a security b/c of how it was offered.
Stanford Law Professor Joseph Grundfest in the video below in 2015 says sometimes #BTC is a security and sometimes it is not.
The fundamental concept seems to be lost on the SEC. they focus on the underlying asset too much. It’s intellectually lazy.
When I filed the Writ of Mandamus and the Motion to Intervene, all the SEC had to do was stipulate or declare to the judge, that the SEC was not arguing #XRP itself is a security. If they would have stated that, the judge would have denied #XRPHolders amicus status.
For those that doubt what I’m saying, pull @Ripple’s Response to my motion to intervene. Ripple told the judge if the SEC stipulates that it is only alleging #XRP is a security when and how Ripple sells it, then #XRPHolders have no input and the judge should deny our motion.
Ripple argued, however, if the SEC was in fact arguing all #XRP, including #XRP traded in the secondary market independent of Ripple, is also a security, #XRPHolders have a lot to say and we should be granted amicus.
And here we are with the SEC arguing XRP itself is a security
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I probably have 100 DMs asking the above question and many others are frustrated and wondering why I or others aren’t moving forward with a lawsuit against Hinman for his blatant ethical conflicts. Everyone wants justice today. I get it. So do I.
The truth is anyone could file a suit today. But, as of right now, the case would get dismissed with prejudice based on the qualified immunity Hinman enjoys as a former government official.
I have said if Hinman knew his law firm was a member of the EEA and he didn’t get approval from the Ethics Office (which he couldn’t), it would, IMO, constitute a violation of criminal conflict laws. But we must PROVE Hinman had actual knowledge that STB was a member of the EEA.
Some have criticized me, claiming I have no idea what the SEC’s June 13, 2018 #XRP Memo or the Hinman emails say; and, therefore, should not comment. I reject such criticism and here is why.
We know exactly what the Memo doesn’t say! Judge Netburn made a very important comment in her Order finding the Memo 📝 protected by the deliberative process privilege.
She noted the Memo 📝 DID NOT make any recommendations. This means no enforcement action was recommended.
We know it doesn’t conclude #XRP is a security (even without an enforcement recommendation).
Some might be now thinking 🤔:
“Deaton you don’t know that for sure.”
Of course I do, and here’s how:
1) If it concluded #XRP was clearly a security, it would recommend enforcement.
Everyone knows that part already. But what I didn’t realize until @TigerMike15 pointed it out to me, was that Ripple was still providing both FinCEN and the DOJ Independent Audit Reports of #XRP sales until 2020 - the same year it was sued by the SEC.
You can read for yourself that Ripple was subject to an external audit requirement clause as part of the 2015 settlement wherein FinCEN declared #XRP “convertible virtual currencies.” Ripple had to hire an independent auditor that the DOJ and FinCEN didn’t object to.
I’ve read Jimmy’s 🧵 👇 and reviewed Judge Torres’ Local Rules related to Summary Judgement scheduling. As usual, when Jimmy Filan tweets or speaks we should listen. Read his 🧵 👇
The issue right now, as Jimmy points out, is w/r the parties have to comply w/ her normal process?
This is important for our amicus brief b/c if they file pre-motion letters, it will provide us w/ a lot of information each side is relying on (evidence, exhibits, deposition testimony, etc). After reading those pre-motion letters, I will know what info to ask to review.
If the parties ask and she agrees to waive her normal process and there are no pre-motion letters and the Court sets dates, we won’t get to see any information until the motions are filed. If that happens, I will have to figure out the best approach to gain access to information.
“Coin Center is …focused on the policy issues facing cryptocurrencies.
We …educate policymakers, and advocate for sensible regulatory approaches to this technology.”
Who exactly does coincenter advocate for? I don’t care if you despise @chrislarsensf or Garlinghouse, hundreds of thousands of individual #XRPHolders are being hurt by the SEC’s gross overreach in the @Ripple / #XRP case and the SEC needs to be called out over it.
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The SEC isn’t limiting it’s claims of illegality to only include previous or present sales of #XRP issued by Ripple or it’s executives. The SEC is absurdly claiming the token itself is an unregistered security - including #XRP traded in the secondary market.
I’m getting a lot of DMs on what happens next with the @Ripple#XRP case. This Friday the SEC and Ripple are expected to file a joint proposed scheduling order to Judge Torres. It is likely to contain a deadline to submit any Daubert challenges related to expert testimony.
It should also include a deadline to submit summary judgment motions and a date to respond to each summary judgment motion.
That means the SEC and Ripple are likely to meet and confer this week (unless they already have) to see if they can agree on scheduling.
All we know so far, is that Ripple was pushing for mid-May. I think the parties will agree to an early June deadline for motions w/ responses due by the end of June.
If they can’t agree, each side informs the judge of their respective position and the judge sets the dates.