Important thread wrt claim that the element found is not a #Shivling but a remnant of a fountain.
First I'm sharing arguments to assert it to be fountain is vague (from perspective of a student of Architecture).
Parties may refute it or use in court if found substantial.
Well, the structure must be of the era of Aurangzeb should it be part of "Fountain Jet" or "fawwara."
Then one needs to look at the working of landscape architecture of that era. This paper gives a very good details & I shall use it as source jstor.org/stable/4415632…
When Babur came to Bharat (Hindustan in his words), he found only "Saqia" (rehet) the most effective method to pull water up.
The paper also explains that "gravity" was major method & when water-body was close-by (Ganga here) , it was the source.
This illustration from the same paper shows the methods.
Hence the the Jet of the "Fountain" then needs to be made workable as per the "principle of siphoning" but we find no such arrangements.
A typical "Water Closet" flushing system also works on similar principal.
Check Heron's Fountain too.
Hence it looks straight away an absurd argument that "Jet Fountain" existed in this very water-body.
Moreover even proportion of the "element" found hints that there is not much scope to raise the top to match the top level of floor around, which would be needed for fountain.
So this system (or similar’s existence) must be proved to make the claim that the element found is actually a broken part of fountain to start with it.
Without passing this test it shouldn’t even be considered to discuss on other aspects of it being the fountain.
Pre-set notion shouldn’t supersede existing records.
The Sringeri Records State:
“The positive reply from Parasuram Bhau (...) plunder of Sringeri was not due to any deliberate intention on his part, but a result of the predatory habits of the Pindaris in his contingent.”
Further @honshomyoshu , the Sringeri website doesn’t glorify Tipu as you claim but just gives passing reference that Hyder Ali & Tipu we’re drawn towards Peetham & saw Acharya as Guru.
Now, as per the mutt’s record that Marathas never intended to do what the Pindaris had done and at the same time also tells us that Tipu was donating to the mutt, but some observations give an interesting perspective.
Have you read Raja Kesavadas by VR Parameswaran Pillai?
3)Served the crown? @GauravPandhi then y British crown waste so much money and resource on surveillance? Why they didn’t return his degrees & award him position as Ambedkar?
4)u have problem with his pension? Which revolutionary wasn’t given pension? In fact he was paid least.
With degrees snatched, how would he have led the life if not even pension?
How much hate & misinformation you brew @GauravPandhi ? While Nehru wrote books, Savarkar had to scribble with on walls.
1/n Let's talk a bit about #Secularism in this thread.
We are told that the Western World gave us the "Secular Values" with the "Separation of State and Church (Religious Institution)" and hence State not being Religious.
But how true has it been?
2/n Till my architecture school days, I lived with the belief that the USA, UK etc are non-Christian state but the exposure to the truth baffled me, however till today they are shown as non-Christian (say Secular states).
Did you know that motto of USA comes from Bible?
3/n "In God we trust" comes from the Psalms 56.11.
Imagine, if someone proposes "Jai Siya/Shri Ram" as motto of Bharat, or even "Aham Brahmasmi".
Didn't we had bunch of people crying over "Asto ma sadgamaye..." and preaching to eat up western values?
Pl elaborate what did I misquote?
One sided agency? NIA is private property?
& pl prove below wrong:
A)Letters are forged & Stan didn’t communicate with Maoists
B)Navalakha didn’t deal with someone caught by FBI for money laundering with ISI?
C) How is anti conversion law against Dalit & Minorities? Can you elaborate? Being an advocate @arjunsheoran how can you go against a law wrong which checks forced & fraudulent conversions?
Stop living in the bubble & accept if your understanding is against Indian ethos.
So by your logic, if the case is still running in court, an agency like @USCIRF can blame Indian state for forcing UAPA on Dalits & Minorities that too by using names like Stan.
If the case didn’t conclude how either you or agency can give a clean chit to them?