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Jul 25 15 tweets 7 min read
It's not often @sailorrooscout and I find ourselves kind of on the same side of an issue.

They will probably not appreciate my airborne position (will link in the end), but we can agree to disagree in that case.

@benryanwriter is intent on reporting

according to official reports?

Interesting. Because back on June 5, his position seems pretty solidified.

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What has happened since June 5th?
The CDC removed recommendations for masks on June 6th

Seems to support Ben's position, correct?

beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/…
In an article titled, "Monkeypox can be airborne, too" the CDC's leading monkeypox expert Andrea McCollum said this was not a disease that transmitted over several meters. (Not true, see my thread for studies showing this).

archive.ph/VmtJX
But interestingly, in the very next paragraph? She acknowledges the possibility of airborne transmission.

The leading CDC monkeypox expert, @benryanwriter .

Seems like that's worthy of reporting on, and following up on.
Interestingly, McCollum noted that masks helped prevent transmission of Monkeypox in a flight back in 2021.

gpb.org/news/2021/08/1…
She said something interesting there. Monkeypox requires close contact for a long period of time?

If a disease is truly droplet based, then I should be able to have someone cough at me with my mouth open, and catch it.

Immediately.

If it is fomite based, then I should be
able to lick a doorknob and catch it. Immediately.

But that's not what she said.

She says it takes a long time. What builds in concentration over time?

Droplets? Fomites?

Aerosols. Which are airborne.

This building of concentration of aerosols also plays a role in Ben's
favorite study to prove his point.

"528 global cases found just 0.6% were from household transmission; 95% were likely transmitted via sex between men."

Like I told him before, that just reflects it's spreading in the male

homosexual community.

That it really hasn't jumped to other communities.

But, I was curious about household transmission. This was the same argument used against CoVid. Low HT, so can't be airborne.

Hit ye olde scholar.google.com.

Didn't even have to scroll down.
Household attack rate of 50%. That is high, @benryanwriter.

Like I said, household attack rate was used to say CoVid wasn't airborne.

Here's why that logic does not work.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
Countries can have different housing styles. New houses in the US tend to be energy efficient. Which tends to mean, not very good ventilation.

Homes in Africa differ too, depending on the region.

Bad ventilation means aerosols build in concentration.

Aerosols concentrating
means a greater amount of inhalation, so lesser transmissible diseases like WT CoVid and the current MPX in the west, have a greater chance of infection.

Ok, enough of that for today.
@sailorrooscout, for your attacking pleasure, the #MonkeypoxIsAirborne thread is below. Just added the air sampling study.

Rumor has it that Lednicky is working on harvesting viable virus from the air - but I have not confirmed it yet.

Finally, of course, it is not just airborne.

Sexual, fomites, droplets, etc.

This virus is a beast of stability. 90 hours viable in aerosols as opposed to 16 for CoVid.

We should all be wearing N95s, wearing condoms, and washing our hands so it doesn't get a chance to mutate.

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Jul 25
Looks like cleaning is back with MPX.

A quick how-to.
Build a big box. Seal with with calk around internal edges. Use window ribbon call where the door closes on the frame.

Paint.

Bare wood inhibits the formation of ozone. Wrong terminology, but gives the idea.
There will be gaps on the inside- good. Also drill holes. This will allow the box to fill.
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Jul 24
A science writer not engaging on content? On multiple studies that have been provided with clear screenshots and links to the studies?

Rather, attacking a position by calling it misinformation?

An interesting tactic - but
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one easily beaten by simply pointing it out.

The gish gallop he deployed is also easily beaten, by drawing the audience's attention to the simple fact that he gish galloped past that thread.

The problem for Benjamin is that pretty much every single major Public Health
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organization had monkeypox as airborne.

Until it became a pandemic.

Was there a sudden onslaught of studies to justify downgrading it to droplet? No.

When I go down the airborne path I also check for droplet and fomite studies. I would be happy to be shown one showing MPX /3
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Jul 22
Let's play...

Guess the disease.

Might want to not play if you don't like looking at skin conditions.
"Come on, Laz. Stop monkeying around. I know this disease. "
"wait..."
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Jul 22
Just found my new favorite technique for dealing with antimaskers.

A 3 act play.

Act 1. The correction. Matter of fact.
Act 2. The sarcasm. The Snark. The Punchline.

In the replies of the offending tweet. Very, very important location.

Act 3. Droppeth of the mic.
Read 4 tweets
Jul 21
That's one Republican I am now voting for in my local election, @RonaldKlain.

How's that for a "teaching moment"?

Also, amplifying Wen, who wouldn't recognize health, much less public health if it was spelled out for her?

Welcome to the barrel.

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No @WHCOS has ever done more harm, literally, to the American people.

That includes Mark Meadows.

What!?
Yes.

Under your stewardship, Biden has literally killed more Americans than any other President.

All preventable with #N95ForAll.
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Jul 21
Not even 22 hours ago, I tweeted a comparison of Biden to Woodrow Wilson.

Settle in for an unsettling tale of paranoia, presidents, and pandemics.

You might want a cup of coffee.
Or a cup of toxoplasma.

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Wilson was also said to have a mild case - just like Biden.
Look at Biden just working away! What a hard worker.

He had to take off his tie, he's working so hard.

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