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@LazarusLong13
Jul 27, 2022 • 22 tweets • 9 min read • Read on X
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#MarsburgVirusIsAirborne
#MVDisAirborne
#MARVisAirborne

Logically, mechanistically, and as shown in studies.

This pic below? The WHO is trying to get ahead of this one.

Unfortunately, for them, has the right stuff to blow down their house of cards. scholar.google.com
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A little dark humor to start, because, really, how many lies do we have to catch them in?

(As always, I am fan of public health. Not a fan of political health as the CDC is under Walensky and Redfield).

First study...

Approximately 90 minute viability in the usual Goldberg drum. At a very rough glance because this first step of the dance is boring.

Anywho, MVD is not very stable, thankfully.

As seen below, aerosol transmission possible.

mdpi.com/1999-4915/14/4…
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Next... Our monkey pals. Does MVD cause damage to the lungs, where aerosols are produced?

Not at first, but we see filoviruses like MVD use the aerosol route.

Later on, we see the lung pathology. Lots of it.

Yes, lungs involved (aerosols).

mdpi.com/1999-4915/8/4/…

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Another bunch of monkeys.

Exposed to aerosolized MVD. Died.

Establishes that if virus gets into URT or LRT, can cause infection in nonhuman primate.

Also, this breed is a very good stand in for humans in respiratory disease testing.

We die, too.

journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.11…
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Same study... inhalation is not a "prominent" method of transmission.

But it is possible.

So, if there is a remote possibility of me catching a disease with 50% fatality?

You can bet that your boy will be in a 3M 6800 full face N100.

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Symptoms of Marburg include vomiting.

Guess what generates huge amounts of aerosols? (Vomiting - don't tell @RWalensky, let's let it be a surprise.)

cdc.gov/vhf/marburg/sy…
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Symptoms also include coughing. Thank you, Mayo Clinic.

Guess what generates huge amounts of aerosols?

Coughing. (Fine - breathing, talking, laughing, singing, all produce aerosols.)

mayoclinic.org/diseases-condi…
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We can take a look at our villian's origin story. Oops, they said aerosols.

That will disappear soon. Web. is our friend!

Archive.Org
cdc.gov/vhf/marburg/tr…
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Something to consider. The @CDCgov and @WHO's contact trace methods are based on direct contact.

They wouldn't know how to use the Gesundheit 2 to save @DrTedros's reputation. Or how to do full traces, including everyone in the room. Or in the next room.

To use smoke.
So, all of those epi studies?

About as useful as @RWalensky 's magical 5 day isolation policy, when trying to rule out airborne transmission.

How about this? You nay-sayers, explain the origin of the 6 foot distance rule. The 15 minute transmission rule used today.
I can explain where they come from, can you?

Sorry if I am being aggressive.

We have sat around for far too long. I am calling it like I see it, and it's all self-reinforcing bullshit.

I am talking directly to you, John Conly and others of his ilk.

Get out of the damn way.
Let me show you what I mean by self-reinforcing.

In this fascinating treatment of a lost case of Marburg, the authors explore how the wife got infected.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
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Notice how they did not discuss the fact they were breathing the same air?

Instead, they bent over backwards to pull a sexual event out of a medical article written after the fact.

Which just might have been crass boasting.

Who knows?

In any event, our attention is now
focused on sex and fluids.

Ignoring the 22,000 breaths they took back then per day - and we all still take (H/T @kprather88 for that fun factoid).

One final note for now.

Elite Panic. That is when the elite panic that the common person will freak out.
Let's stop that, right the eff now, @RWalensky @ashishkjha. Enough. Grow up.

Just tell us the truth. Because they did that here 👇👇. And it went just fine - when they were matter of fact.

When they told half-truths, as in Germany 👇, people lost their minds. Image
Oh, btw?

It's also transmitted all the usual ways as well.

Sexually, fomites, droplets, butterfly kisses (eye to eye).

But fortunately, it's just not too transmissible.
Not yet.
I sure did. Unlike the CDC, I don't delete uncomfortable truths.

(Though I believe my godforsaken Autocorrect did that to me.)

But - it is my responsibility, so my apologies!

Thank you, @Lysistrata2022


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Tacking on #MarburgVirusIsAirborne
#MarburgVirus

Not sure what the first tweet's Marsburg is all about....
#marburgisairborne
Never mind this Marburg Virus update.

It's just the Department of Homeland Security saying it can be transmitted via aerosols.

dhs.gov/sites/default/…
MARV can be directly transmitted via blood and other bodily fluids. The virus may also transmit via aerosol and fomites; however, the stability of the virus is not well understood. • Limited data on MARV stability may be supplemented with available data pertaining to EBOV, as both viruses are members of the family Filoviridae and primarily transmit through direct contact. • EBOV maintains infectivity in whole blood and plasma after 5 days, even when the blood is stored at 37°C. • EBOV loses all infectivity in urine and semen at 37°C within 4-5 days and 5 days, respectively. • EBOV remains...

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Apr 2
@TheAtlantic @danengber Heh - I suspect Mr. Engber has been eavesdropping on my (and my fellow Covid Conscious) swimming safer threads. I have a new solution for showering safer for that I will be rolling out tomorrow.

For future articles by those who will come along, let me point out a few things /+
@TheAtlantic @danengber Thank you very much for pointing out that 4% of America is still masking 100% of the time! That is 13.2 million Americans.

The Masking Nation is larger than 38 states. :)

But, 18% of us masking some of the time in the SAME PEW POLL (tch tch). You would think that would be/+ At a basic level, their COVID-conscious attitudes may not be so far from the mainstream. Twenty-one percent of Americans still think of the disease as “a major threat” to public health, according to a recent poll from Pew Research Center. Thirty-nine percent say we’re not “taking it seriously enough.” But if 50 million to 100 million adults harbor such concerns, very few are doing much about them. Masking rates were once as high as 88 percent; now they’re close to nil. For those who still maintain their masking habit—4 percent, says Pew—the whiplash in social norms has been a shock.
@TheAtlantic @danengber be mentioned, @TaylorLorenz, by Mr. Engber, since 18% lines up pretty closely to the 21% still worried that Covid is a big deal (it is) - that he mentioned.

And suddenly, Masking Nation has 59.4 million residents. We are the largest state. Canada /+

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Mar 22
This may be one of the most important studies in a decade.

#LongCovidBinder.

"The models produced correctly classified those with severe ME/CFS from recovered controls with an accuracy of 97%, sensitivity of 94%, and specificity of 100%. "

THAT IS HUGE.
"We found that at Stage 1, those fated to develop ME/CFS 6 months following IM had low levels of IL-5 and IL-13 [25]. " We found that at Stage 1, those fated to develop ME/CFS 6 months following IM had low levels of IL-5 and IL-13 [25]. IL-5 enhances the production of B1 cells which are anti-inflammatory (impaired B1 cells have been found in multiple sclerosis, systemic lupus erythematosus, and rheumatoid arthritis), and IL-13 has anti-inflammatory properties. Jason et al. [26] also found that students who failed to recover from IM had more restricted, inflexible cytokine networks whereas those who recovered had more flexible, less interconnected networks. Network analysis suggests that IL-5 and IL-13 influe...
So, this means ME/CFS can be predicted.

And what can be predicted - treatments can be found.

And they are studying LongCovid as well.

This study is easy to read, And everyone should.

/+

mdpi.com/2076-2607/13/4…
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Mar 13
A new study just showed what I have been saying since the start of bird flu. H5N1 is airborne.

Still in place?
USDA: YOU ONLY NEED TO TEST LACTATING COWS.

oops.

USDA: FOMITES (infectious objects) SPREAD IT.

oops.

WASHING YOUR HANDS WILL STOP IT.

oops. This new Federal Order does not override or supersede USDA's April 24 Federal Order, which still requires the mandatory testing of lactating dairy cows prior to interstate shipment and requires that all privately owned laboratories and state veterinarians report positive test results connected with those tests. The new Federal Order announced today is intended to complement and enhance this existing order.
Question [00:51:52] Given the CDC's vaccination program, I'm wondering if this means you think it's no longer realistic to expect that the outbreak will be contained this year? Eric Deeble, USDA [00:52:12] Just on the animal side and all that Dr. Nirav speak to the human side, there's a lot about this disease that makes us feel as if we can arrest its progress. And we've actually seen some success demonstrated to date. With this disease, it does not appear to move by respiratory transmission. We know that there are high viral loads in milk, and we've identified through close, collabora...
In addition to testing, biosecurity is the key to containing this virus, and ultimately ensuring that it is eradicated so that producers do not have to deal with this virus in dairy cattle permanently. Good biosecurity including cleaning and disinfection of vehicle and equipment - is critical to minimizing the risk of disease spread. USDA works closely with state animal health official, producers, and industry organizations to provide guidance and resources for cleaning and disinfection not only on affected farms but for all livestock producers as a part of practicing good biosecurity. APHI...
The study.

✅ 20% of the cows showed up as sick. Had symptoms. But....

✅ It turns out that 89.4% were actually infected.

✅ 83.7% of those had no symptoms. Remind you of any other airborne diseases?

✅ 40.5% of the dry cows not being milked? Infected. So, no Image
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fomites or milk aerosols involved, most likely.
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Mar 13
There is not much that scares me. Freaks me out.

I am freaking out.

You should be, too.

Do you know what this shows?

Do you know how to avoid this? Holy cow.
This is the continued accumulation of dementia-causing microplastics in your brain. Simple linear regression (shown with 95% CI represented by dashed lines) was performed for total plastics, polyethylene, polypropylene, polyvinyl chloride and styrene-butadiene rubber measured in normal decedent brains from 2004 (average of east coast samples), 2016 and 2024 (NM OMI samples).
See how it increased from 2016 to 2024?

And it actually is worse - they found less plastics in brains from a decade earlier.

ACCUMULATION. Simple linear regression (shown with 95% CI represented by dashed lines) was performed for total plastics, polyethylene, polypropylene, polyvinyl chloride and styrene-butadiene rubber measured in normal decedent brains from 2004 (average of east coast samples), 2016 and 2024 (NM OMI samples).
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Feb 23
Great interview of Ed Yong - I am just covering the C0V1D part.

/1 The Interview Ed Yong Wants to Show You the Hidden Reality of the World Ed standing with his arms folded. His eyes tell you COVID is not over.
You've been clear in saying that C0V1D has not gone away. You ask people to wear masks at your events..... You’ve been clear in saying that Covid has not gone away. You ask people to wear masks at your events. But that attitude is not necessarily where the rest of the world is. How do you think about continuing to take precautions and advising others to do so when it feels as if society has moved on? I do it for a bunch of reasons. Firstly, I have learned that I enjoy not being sick. I know that the cost of long Covid is real and substantial, and I don’t want to run that risk lightly.
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Feb 22
I am sorry if this will upset you. A lot of people depend on NASAL SPRAYS for C0V1D.

I have been iffy on them, but viewed them as "if they don't hurt, why not" but not for me.

There's an analysis
on Reddit that you should read in detail, and make up your own mind.
/1
Here is the link:


Here is a 4 tweet TLDR version.

Here is how it starts - the author goes HARD at the underlying studies. reddit.com/r/ZeroCovidCom…There is no convincing evidence that nasal sprays prevent COVID-19 There is a lot of misinformation out there about nasal sprays preventing COVID-19. Unfortunately, there are no convincing studies showing that nasal sprays prevent COVID-19. The published studies investigating whether or not nasal sprays prevent COVID-19 each have major issues, which I will detail here. I have a PhD in biochemistry and one of my PhD projects was on COVID-19. The main takeaway of this post is that there is no sound evidence that nasal sprays prevent COVID-19. Thus, nasal sprays should not be used for COVID-...
Some pretty harsh language, but to me the important thing is we still have clean air.

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