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@LazarusLong13
Jul 27, 2022 • 22 tweets • 9 min read • Read on X
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#MarsburgVirusIsAirborne
#MVDisAirborne
#MARVisAirborne

Logically, mechanistically, and as shown in studies.

This pic below? The WHO is trying to get ahead of this one.

Unfortunately, for them, has the right stuff to blow down their house of cards. scholar.google.com
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A little dark humor to start, because, really, how many lies do we have to catch them in?

(As always, I am fan of public health. Not a fan of political health as the CDC is under Walensky and Redfield).

First study...

Approximately 90 minute viability in the usual Goldberg drum. At a very rough glance because this first step of the dance is boring.

Anywho, MVD is not very stable, thankfully.

As seen below, aerosol transmission possible.

mdpi.com/1999-4915/14/4…
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Next... Our monkey pals. Does MVD cause damage to the lungs, where aerosols are produced?

Not at first, but we see filoviruses like MVD use the aerosol route.

Later on, we see the lung pathology. Lots of it.

Yes, lungs involved (aerosols).

mdpi.com/1999-4915/8/4/…

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Another bunch of monkeys.

Exposed to aerosolized MVD. Died.

Establishes that if virus gets into URT or LRT, can cause infection in nonhuman primate.

Also, this breed is a very good stand in for humans in respiratory disease testing.

We die, too.

journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.11…
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Same study... inhalation is not a "prominent" method of transmission.

But it is possible.

So, if there is a remote possibility of me catching a disease with 50% fatality?

You can bet that your boy will be in a 3M 6800 full face N100.

And so should you. Image
Symptoms of Marburg include vomiting.

Guess what generates huge amounts of aerosols? (Vomiting - don't tell @RWalensky, let's let it be a surprise.)

cdc.gov/vhf/marburg/sy…
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Symptoms also include coughing. Thank you, Mayo Clinic.

Guess what generates huge amounts of aerosols?

Coughing. (Fine - breathing, talking, laughing, singing, all produce aerosols.)

mayoclinic.org/diseases-condi…
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We can take a look at our villian's origin story. Oops, they said aerosols.

That will disappear soon. Web. is our friend!

Archive.Org
cdc.gov/vhf/marburg/tr…
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Something to consider. The @CDCgov and @WHO's contact trace methods are based on direct contact.

They wouldn't know how to use the Gesundheit 2 to save @DrTedros's reputation. Or how to do full traces, including everyone in the room. Or in the next room.

To use smoke.
So, all of those epi studies?

About as useful as @RWalensky 's magical 5 day isolation policy, when trying to rule out airborne transmission.

How about this? You nay-sayers, explain the origin of the 6 foot distance rule. The 15 minute transmission rule used today.
I can explain where they come from, can you?

Sorry if I am being aggressive.

We have sat around for far too long. I am calling it like I see it, and it's all self-reinforcing bullshit.

I am talking directly to you, John Conly and others of his ilk.

Get out of the damn way.
Let me show you what I mean by self-reinforcing.

In this fascinating treatment of a lost case of Marburg, the authors explore how the wife got infected.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
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Notice how they did not discuss the fact they were breathing the same air?

Instead, they bent over backwards to pull a sexual event out of a medical article written after the fact.

Which just might have been crass boasting.

Who knows?

In any event, our attention is now
focused on sex and fluids.

Ignoring the 22,000 breaths they took back then per day - and we all still take (H/T @kprather88 for that fun factoid).

One final note for now.

Elite Panic. That is when the elite panic that the common person will freak out.
Let's stop that, right the eff now, @RWalensky @ashishkjha. Enough. Grow up.

Just tell us the truth. Because they did that here 👇👇. And it went just fine - when they were matter of fact.

When they told half-truths, as in Germany 👇, people lost their minds. Image
Oh, btw?

It's also transmitted all the usual ways as well.

Sexually, fomites, droplets, butterfly kisses (eye to eye).

But fortunately, it's just not too transmissible.
Not yet.
I sure did. Unlike the CDC, I don't delete uncomfortable truths.

(Though I believe my godforsaken Autocorrect did that to me.)

But - it is my responsibility, so my apologies!

Thank you, @Lysistrata2022


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Tacking on #MarburgVirusIsAirborne
#MarburgVirus

Not sure what the first tweet's Marsburg is all about....
#marburgisairborne
Never mind this Marburg Virus update.

It's just the Department of Homeland Security saying it can be transmitted via aerosols.

dhs.gov/sites/default/…
MARV can be directly transmitted via blood and other bodily fluids. The virus may also transmit via aerosol and fomites; however, the stability of the virus is not well understood. • Limited data on MARV stability may be supplemented with available data pertaining to EBOV, as both viruses are members of the family Filoviridae and primarily transmit through direct contact. • EBOV maintains infectivity in whole blood and plasma after 5 days, even when the blood is stored at 37°C. • EBOV loses all infectivity in urine and semen at 37°C within 4-5 days and 5 days, respectively. • EBOV remains...

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May 20
Speaking of silly, can we agree that the WHO has Ebola experts?

Let's talk about PPE, and a bias towards "less PPE is better." Image
The WHO EBOLA IPC guidance:


Foreshadow on PPE

"...due to the desirability of an off-
the-face design, and not for protection from aerosols, respirators may be used instead of medical masks"who.int/publications/i…
If you can stay 3 feet away while screening? No medical mask needed. Image
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May 10
Great article by @EmilyJoshu here.

Emily, there's another article in this that's even more shocking.

The aerosols from milking have long been discussed by many of us on X.

People like myself, @sri_srikrishna, @AbraarKaran have long advocated for comfortable aerosol
protective gear like PAPRs. But, have been ignored by the USDA who, of course, thought it was only contaminated milking gear like the claw.

But there is one more source of aerosols besides cow breath.

The wastewater. When you spray anything you generate huge amounts of Image
aerosols. And that farm wastewater, filled with milk dumped from being full of H5N1, gets reclaimed and reused.

Those milk and wastewater lagoons are on most dairy farms (my grandfather owned a dairy farm).

And there's something you should know.

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May 7
Humanity's hubris vs the precautionary principle.

The virus, ANDV, will do what it will do. Pandemic? History tells us "NO." But history is in the past.

Let me show you what the studies tell us - and why I am livid that the WHO is insisting that surgical masks are ok.

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Incubation time, or how long until symptoms show up?

The high risk time frame is 14–32 days. Not to put too fine a point on that, but that can mean a full month later

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC32…

There have been some out to 8 weeks, but let's ignore those

gov.uk/guidance/andes… Image
Clinical features The most important complication of ANDV infection is HCPS, which is associated with a high mortality rate. Milder illness without significant cardio-respiratory compromise may also be seen. Illness usually develops 2 to 4 weeks following exposure, but incubation periods as early as 4 days and up to 8 weeks have been described.
But, what receptor does the ANDV attach to?

PCDH1 (protocadherin-1) is primarily expressed in the airway epithelium of the respiratory system, especially in the bronchial and nasal epithelial cells, and in pulmonary endothelial cells.

So, that means in the URT and the LRT.
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May 6
@mvankerkhove - a follow-up question on today's press conference.

In this bit, you were thanked for being very clear.

But, you said that the medical personnel taking care of those sick would be wearing PPE.

N95s are not PPE. They are Respiratory Protective Equipment. /1
Surgical masks are PPE.

So, is the WHO advising them to wear surgical masks or N95s/FFP2/KF94/KN95 (respirators)?

Second followup, @mvankerkhove, you referred to "really close contacts"

Close contacts are defined by the WHO as within 3 feet.
Cases 1 & 2 were close contacts.

How did the other cases get it? I realize you cannot possibly have an answer...but you are labeling this as "really close contact" for those cases - as well.

Staterooms are typical 2 person rooms.

It doesn't add up. Image
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Mar 26
I've become a bit of a Dental Nerd after just getting savaged by avoiding the dentist due to COVID.

But, now, I have a Dental Nasal PAPR, know all about Stephan's Curve, use a waterpik, Oral-B iO Series 10, chew 8 pieces of xylitol gum - and the dentist just said that.....
He has never seen anyone reverse course so perfectly before.

"Immaculate."

And bonus...I ran into a fellow masker in his lobby!!

She had never heard of Readimask, so I was super happy to share the Good Word with her.

Sharing the Good Word - not COVID!
Good point.

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Mar 16
Now, this is a very interesting PREPRINT.

We've all heard that shingles vaccination reduces risk of Alzheimer's.

And we all know that Covid increases the risk of Alzheimer's by 50-80%.

What happens when you mix them? Will the vaccination offset a different disease?

/1 Opposing effects of SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 infection and recombinant zoster vaccination on the risk of late-onset Alzheimer disease View ORCID ProfileCarly M. Rose, Shiying Liu, View ORCID ProfileWilliam S. Bush, Jonathan L. Haines, Scott M. Williams, View ORCID ProfileDana C. Crawford N3C Consortium doi: https://doi.org/10.64898/2026.01.21.26344555 This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.
Yes.

But by how much? Conclusions and Relevance SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 infection and recombinant zoster vaccination are modifiable risk factors for LOAD among older individuals, with a modestly significant interaction between the two. Recombinant zoster vaccination reduced LOAD risk regardless of sex and race, though the protection is greater in those without documented COVID-19 infection. Recombinant zoster vaccination and reduced exposure to COVID-19 infection in the later decades of life reduce the risk of developing Alzheimer disease over at least a five-year period.
Useful for below - "Late-onset Alzheimer disease (LOAD; onset age ≥65)"

"odds of LOAD are 16% higher among those with at least one reported COVID-19 infection" Image
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