As Forest take on Spurs, a lot of people are asking how they can afford to recruit so many players over the course of the summer, so here's a possible explanation #NFFC
Under PL profitability & sustainability (P&S) rules a club can lose up to £15m over 3 years, plus a further £30m for each season in the PL and £8m for each season in the EFL that is injected in the form of equity shares, so for Forest it is £15m + £30m + 2x£8m = £61m
In addition expenditure on infrastructure, women's teams, academy, promotion costs, & community are excluded from the calculations. Forest were only allowed to lose £39m over three years in the Championship & initially things looked tricky...
...however, 2020 and 2021 were impacted by Covid, so direct costs (loss of matchday revenue, testing, extra travel and accommodation due to social distancing etc) were allowed, I've conservatively estimated these at £10m. Reduces the P&S loss to £44m
Clubs also allowed to combine 2020 & 2021, & take average of losses for those years as a single assessment. Therefore now assessed over 2018, 2019 & combined 2020 & 21. All the above combined results in Forest's P&S loss of £30m up to 2021 so potentially some carry over into PL
Compared to other clubs, Forest are the second highest spenders over the last decade following promotion, but Wolves, Villa, and Fulham all had bigger existing squads and lower wage bills when they went up.
If Forest have signed players on average of 4 years contracts, then their amortisation cost will be about £32 million in 2022/23. Income for promoted clubs has increased on average by £93m and for clubs not in receipt of parachutes £117m. This allows Forest a lot of wages leeway
Wages do rise significantly following promotion, and also tend to by high in the year of promotion too as clubs pay out big bonuses (excluded from P&S)
Forest wages have doubled over the last decade, and have exceeded income every year during that period.
Forest wage bill competitive by Championship standards, but not excessively so. Note the 2021 figures cover 13 months not 12, and figures for Derby from 2018, when Mel Morris could last be bothered to publish accounts.
Forest could therefore in theory take themselves to a wage bill in the region of £110m (average of 'Other 14' was £120m) and increase amortisation by £32m and still remain within the P&S loss limit of £61m

• • •

Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to force a refresh
 

Keep Current with Kieran Maguire

Kieran Maguire Profile picture

Stay in touch and get notified when new unrolls are available from this author!

Read all threads

This Thread may be Removed Anytime!

PDF

Twitter may remove this content at anytime! Save it as PDF for later use!

Try unrolling a thread yourself!

how to unroll video
  1. Follow @ThreadReaderApp to mention us!

  2. From a Twitter thread mention us with a keyword "unroll"
@threadreaderapp unroll

Practice here first or read more on our help page!

More from @KieranMaguire

Aug 27
Biggest Loss Making Clubs in Championship 2010-21 Positions 1-10
Biggest Loss Making Clubs in Championship 2010-21 Positions 11-20
Biggest Loss Making Clubs in Championship 2010-21 Positions 21-30
Read 5 tweets
Aug 9
On 10 August 2012 the Glazers listed Man Utd on New York Stock Exchange, with opening share price of $14. If you had invested £1,000 in #MUFC shares that day on 10th anniversary they're worth £814. Same amount invested in Juventus is worth £2,000, F1 £2,564, Atlanta Braves £1,585 Image
Why has #MUFC underperformed market (Dow Jones is up 89% over last 10 years) when club boasts in its accounts of having over 1.1 billion followers? Markets are forward looking & could be that they see cost of 'fixing' club as expensive & little faith in those making decisions.
The Glazers bought MUFC via a leveraged buyout. It's the equivalent of owning your house and then taking out a huge mortgage on it. In the 2005 accounts MUFC had £6m cash and zero debt, 12 months later still had £6m cash, but debt was £604 million.
Read 13 tweets
May 17
Newcastle publish 2021 accounts covering 11 months (13 in 2020) when Mike Ashley was still owner. 🔑 figures
Revenue £140m ⬇️ £13m
Wages £107m ⬇️ £14m
Loss £16m ⬇️ £27m
Player purchases £41m ⬇️ £35m
Debt £112m⬆️£5m
Cash £13m ⬇️£50m
Furlough claim £900k #NUFC
Total revenue down mainly due to shorter accounting period and so less earned from sponsors, plus a full year of matches played BCD.
Matchday revenue down 99% due to Covid. Even before Covid it had fallen by almost a quarter during the MA reign.
Read 11 tweets
Apr 7
Stoke City lost £43 million from day to day trading in 2020/21 but were able to sell the stadium and training ground for £85m before the 1 July 2021 deadline when property sale profits were no longer allowed for FFP #MelMorrisLikesThis
Sale of stadium meant that Stoke had over £90m in the bank at 31 May 2021. Total losses over the years were £181 million
As well as the property sale Stoke borrowed a further £25m in the year to boost their cash balance
Read 12 tweets
Apr 7
Leeds accounts for 11 months to 30 June 2021 (13 months in 2020) show an operating profit of £5m. Loan interest of £21m was waived resulting in profit before tax of £26m #LUFC
Leeds finished season with £29m in the bank. Club has £209m of liabilities.
Leeds spent £63m cash on players in 2020/21. Share issue, presumably to SF49, generated £23m and club borrowed £63m and repaid £14m of loans
Read 17 tweets
Apr 6
Bristol Rovers made a loss of £3.2m in 2020/21 but player sales reduced this to £1.6m, down from £2.5m the previous season
Bristol Rovers total losses over the years nearly total £27m. The club’s debts fell substantially after loans were converted into shares.
Bristol Rovers did not borrow any fresh funds in the year or repay loans via cash.
Read 9 tweets

Did Thread Reader help you today?

Support us! We are indie developers!


This site is made by just two indie developers on a laptop doing marketing, support and development! Read more about the story.

Become a Premium Member ($3/month or $30/year) and get exclusive features!

Become Premium

Don't want to be a Premium member but still want to support us?

Make a small donation by buying us coffee ($5) or help with server cost ($10)

Donate via Paypal

Or Donate anonymously using crypto!

Ethereum

0xfe58350B80634f60Fa6Dc149a72b4DFbc17D341E copy

Bitcoin

3ATGMxNzCUFzxpMCHL5sWSt4DVtS8UqXpi copy

Thank you for your support!

Follow Us on Twitter!

:(