@danielgibber Should making a living and working toward justice be the focus of most of our time?
For most people, yes.
Is religion a supplement and inspiration—but NOT how we use the bulk of our time?
For most people, yes.
It’s no sin to live mostly in THIS world.
After all, who PUT us here?
@danielgibber If some choose to sideline themselves from the public discourse for 22+ DAYS—with elections only 54 days away—be my guest.
Those who do so hurt only their own interests and causes.
Yes, the High Holy Days call for meditation and 2-3 full DAYS in “timeout”.
Not 3 whole WEEKS+.
@danielgibber Maybe the more privileged individuals and groups among us can deputize/hire PR firms, campaigns, and other institutions to speak FOR them while they’re on a 3-week “hiatus” from public speech.
We grassroots activists cannot.
Social media are among our main tools for being heard.
@danielgibber Though I suspect no one here of devious intent, this DOES remind me:
Some fundamentalist leaders enjoin followers to undertake a media or social media “fast” for weeks before an election.
Which means being sidelined from discussion—and not exposed to the full array of viewpoints.
@danielgibber Not accusing anyone here of devious intent, but this reminds me:
At times, some fundamentalist leaders have “encouraged” followers to do a “social media fast” in the weeks before an election. This time, they’re told, is for meditation, interacting only with other adherents…
@danielgibber …and of course listening to “talks” by religious leaders.
How convenient. 😏
At least once, at least one religious movement has proclaimed a pre-election “social media fast” FOR ITS WOMEN ONLY.
Three guesses what I think was going on THERE; and the first two don’t count.
@danielgibber Again, I don’t suspect anyone here of trickery.
Not if they themselves will “practice what they preach”.
But—again—the more privileged DO have other platforms (teaching/writing/speaking/videos/?) and can hire PACS etc to speak for them.
@F125AXer@bungarsargon But which courses of study “have limited utility towards better paying careers”?
Virtually all those who succeed in every field—journalism, academia, writing, the arts—DO have elite degrees in relevant subjects.
The degree is a prerequisite for—though not a guarantee of—success.
@F125AXer@bungarsargon Why should a student with an interest in and aptitude for a given field not have access to the academic prerequisites to work in that field, just for lack of parents who can pay out of pocket?
And why should our political and cultural leaders be drawn only from the upper class?
@F125AXer@bungarsargon It’s elitist for people who HAVE good careers in journalism, writing, teaching, the arts, etc.—which careers they wouldn’t have without the liberal arts educations they had—to criticize working/middle class kids for aspiring to those careers even if they must borrow to get there.
Apparently, they just don’t want to do what it takes to make themselves manifestly welcoming to those—the vast majority in recent generations—who can’t afford anything like the standard sticker prices and don’t want to grovel for “charity rates”.
@Josef_Jones@JewishWonk And yes, maybe other denominations—LDS and Scientology—do require specific “donation” amounts. But most churches—and Orthodox shulim—don’t.
And the regressive-tax “% of income” policy—which is some liberal shulims’ stab at “doing it better”—is still a hardship for the non-rich.
@Josef_Jones@JewishWonk What’s more, most of the congregations that think requiring 1%-3% of income is an “improvement” over the fixed-price dues model still “ask” specific large sums for Hebrew school, assorted fees, etc. And still require concurrent (paid) membership and fees along with Hebrew school.
@Josef_Jones@RabbiErin@JewishWonk Yes—there are expenses.
Building, utilities, clergy, teachers, etc.
SAME AS AT EVERY HOUSE OF WORSHIP.
Orthodox, Baptist, Methodist, Unitarian; all have similar bills to pay.
But only liberal shulim think they must require a specific (and large) sum of money—or proof of poverty.
@Josef_Jones@RabbiErin@JewishWonk And it’s NOT just that members of more traditionalist congregations feel “obligated” to give generously and members of liberal congregations don’t.
Liberal churches (Unitarian, UC of C, etc.) are just as mellow—“give as you can; no questions asked”—as are fundamentalist churches.
@Josef_Jones@RabbiErin@JewishWonk And it works fine for them.
So “liberal” vs. “traditionalist” or “fundamentalist” (or “more hardcore theist”) DOESN’T explain the difference in fundraising policies.
So what does?
Are liberal Jewish congregations saying that non-Orthodox Jews can’t be trusted to give generously?
@Josef_Jones@RabbiErin@JewishWonk Or don’t hire a rabbi.
Even in traditional Jewish practice, most things can be done without one.
And a full time rabbi (and then a building fund and so forth) may mean that in a few years you’ll “have to” become like every other congregation—with its high, inflexible dues, etc.
@Josef_Jones@RabbiErin@JewishWonk Almost EVERY full service congregation, which now has all the standard exclusionary, intimidating policies, says it started by “meeting in living rooms”. So what happened?
If becoming a congregation means winding up with all the traditional policies in a few years, why bother?
@Josef_Jones@RabbiErin@JewishWonk Again, I don’t believe congregations really have to do things the way they do. Most churches and some Orthodox congregations do it differently. So why does liberal Judaism think that it—uniquely among all denominations and religions—must do as it does to meet operating expenses?
@Josef_Jones@RabbiErin@JewishWonk And most important:
Don’t require payment of any specific or large fee for membership, classes, High Holidays, etc.
Not only “at first” or until age 30 or 40—but EVER.
The typical paywalls make the non-rich feel unwelcome.
This is where liberal Judaism drops the “outreach” ball.
@Josef_Jones@RabbiErin@JewishWonk The lack of pressure to give a certain amount of money to participate in anything is a BIG part of why unaffiliated Jews say they feel warmly welcomed by a congregation. As are the knowledge that this policy is lifelong, for everyone and not just for newcomers or younger adults…
@Josef_Jones@RabbiErin@JewishWonk …as is the presence of many other congregants—some of them longtime—who are ALSO not extremely prosperous. (Because others too were attracted by the easygoing fundraising policies.)
Few things are more off-putting than the sense that “this is a rich people’s shul”.
Do-it-yourself, homeschooling, online courses, and creating our own in-person or hybrid havurah and Hebrew school are affordable alternatives to consider—as we make our plans (already!) for 5783.
Whatever you do, PLEASE don’t “settle” for some ultratraditional congregation just because it offers a financial arrangement that isn’t (much of) a hardship. The full price will include your kids being taught values that contradict the inclusive values you really want for them.
And read the fine print.
Your daughter may not get to do and learn everything your son will get to do and learn.
And as for your gay or otherwise nonconforming kid…don’t ask.
Also, what will your kids be taught about all the other people on this planet—both Jews and others?