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What we need in this country, and many others to be fair, is to stop treating immigration as a negative and start actually creating policies which benefit people, and the country. This isn't it. 1/ mirror.co.uk/news/politics/…
Before coming up with any policy you need to look at where public attitudes are. That doesn't mean just looking to your membership or what the most vocal shout. It's about seeing where attitudes in general are, and on immigration they're softening. 2/ bsa.natcen.ac.uk/latest-report/…
Immigration currently ranks at fourth on voter priorities, behind, understandably, the economy, health and the environment, with only 24% of people surveyed counting it is a core issue. 3/ yougov.co.uk/topics/educati…
Obviously though there are arguments which are used, even among a more positive attitude towards immigration, that any policy needs to address to ensure it gets support. These tend to be around infrastructure use though, e.g. housing and schools etc. 4/ ft.com/content/f2d72f…
Even when talking about channel crossings, despite what it may appear in the rhetoric shown by some politicians and pundits, the public tend to have be more sympathetic to asylum seekers crossing the channel and want a fairer asylum system. 5/ ipsos.com/sites/default/…
So in essence the atmosphere is in the right place, or moving that way, for Labour, and others, to start looking at positive and progressive immigration policies, and that does not mean "points based" or expanding "seasonal workers visas". 6/ theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/s…
What does it mean then? Well first off, while I may personally want to see them, it doesn't mean "open borders". Those require a global focus and the phrase itself has been tainted by those who claim any opening of routes is the equivalent to it. 7/
It is about ensuring that everyone, migrants and native citizens alike, benefit. It is about recognising that people are concerned about the economy and how they will survive, which does mean that they may question why people coming from overseas get assistance. 8/
The thing is that providing that assistance actually does benefit everyone. It is "development in parallel". So for example you end "no recourse to public funds" which denies migrants access to a multitude of benefits. 9/ citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/our-w…
While it may sound counterintuitive, scrapping NRPF actually helps boost the economy, by addressing issues of poverty, enabling investment in other areas, which means resources can be better targeted to the benefit of everyone. 10/ london.gov.uk/what-we-do/com….
Then there is providing asylum seekers with the right to work. This not only reduces, but also boosts the economy by providing more opportunities for people to earn, and contributes to a decrease in crime as people are less vulnerable to exploitation. 11/ antislaverycommissioner.co.uk/media/1599/rig…
Limiting where people can work, through specific visa routes, not only increases the risks of exploitation, but also stifles the economy, particularly in the face of an aging population. So you need to give migrants the opportunity to shift employment. 12/ ageing-better.org.uk/summary-state-…
In line with this you also need to scrap the minimum income requirement for bringing dependents over. Denying people a family life isn't just inhumane, it also means that you are more likely to lose out on people coming here, which isn't a good thing. 13/ davidsonmorris.com/skilled-worker…
Think about it, even Liz Truss recognises immigration is a benefit to the UK, although I would as part of this argue that you cannot just see migrants as an "economic resource", and by denying them a family life you are hardly creating a conducive environment for them coming. 14/
What about infrastructure though? People are understandably worried about the cost of living, housing, schools etc. Let's clear something up first, the total land use in the UK for homes and gardens is about 5%. Not a lot. 15/ showhouse.co.uk/news/five-surp….
Issues with housing supply are not, again despite what you may hear from certain quarters, down to immigration. There's no one reason, but a big part of it is years of underfunding and a failure to meet building targets by the government. 16/ commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-brief…
The same is true for schools, healthcare etc. Underfunding has far more to do with pressures than immigration. If you provide migrants with the ability to contribute to the economy then you are already covering a lot of any additional costs. 17/ migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/brie…).%20...
What about any additional costs though? The majority of the costs associated with immigration in UK come down to three things, deterrents, detention and deportation. For example the Home Office has just signed a £399 million deal for detention centres. 18/ theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/s…
Add that to, for example, £120 million for the Rwanda deal, along with additional costs involved in that. Tends of thousands on deportation flights, and even £90k on social media adverts telling people not to come, and the money starts to build up. 19/ independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-n…
Throw in £95 million for detention costs, and... you get the idea. £100 million here a £100 million there and soon you are talking about real money, real money which can be invested into communities to benefit everyone, including reducing homelessness 20/ migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/brie….
As much as I don't like it, I get that a progressive immigration policy can't just rely on telling people to be humane and treat people equally. It needs to show how it benefits voters. What we need from #Lab22, and other parties, is a policy which does that. 21/
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This is going to need to be re-upped a lot. Yes there are obvious reasons why states and the public may want to refuse Russians seeking asylum, however, many still do have 100% legitimate claims to be refugees, whatever your feelings, and are protected under international law.
It doesn't mean you condone Putin's genocide in Ukraine to acknowledge that you do actually need to protect Russians fleeing his regime. You also can't say "they should stay and fight back against him" from the safety of your armchairs. The real world doesn't work like that.
Oh, and on that note, the "they should stay and fight" argument is pretty heavily loaded already. It is used, particularly by the far right, against Afghans, Syrians... pretty much every refugee actually. So you may want to consider the precedent you are setting using it.
No! Look, I do not care if you are a monarchist or not. No worries if you stood in the queue. If you were genuinely upset by her death please have my sympathies, but absolutely not. Can we not demean sainthood anymore than we already have please? 1/
Sainthood isn't like the House of Lords. You don't just hand them out to gain political favour. They should mean something, and I will grant that there are more than a few dubious ones. Sainthood should be for extraordinary acts of faith, not doing your "job". 2/
Mass spontaneous declaration. That's actually, not in my personal opinion, one reason to grant it. That didn't happen. There weren't crowds calling for sainthood at the gates of Westminster or anything. 3/
While not a wholesale reason for being granted refugee status, Russians fleeing forced military conscription do have significant grounds for being recognised as refugees. There is very little purpose in denying those escaping being sent to war safety. 1/
In fact, it could almost have a backlash effect and play into the hands of Putin's propaganda, by making it seem like the West wants to "punish" all Russians, rather than stop the war in Ukraine and hold Putin et al responsible for their many, many, war crimes. 2/
It is understandable why people feel animosity to those fleeing Russia, but legally and morally you cannot hold an entire population, particularly one living under an autocratic regime like Putin's, responsible for the actions the state. 3/
Still some significant divides, but overall people are becoming more positive and inclusive. Significant shift in positivity towards immigration and other issues, running contrary to the more "populist" ideology perpetuated by the government. #r4today. 1/ theguardian.com/society/2022/s…
You can find the whole report here. Still some striking discrepancies between those who consider themselves "socially liberal" or "socially conservative", but for majority of public, across generations, attitudes are shifting towards the progressive. 2/ bsa.natcen.ac.uk/latest-report/…
It does mean that as a long term electoral strategy the @Conservatives "culture war narrative" does seem like a doomed endeavour. Appeals to a minority of more vocal voters at present, but a declining proposition for sustained engagement with the public. 3/
I have attempted suicide twice in my life. Both times it wasn't "to get attention" or anything else. I didn't leave a note. I didn't give any warnings. It is sheer dumb luck, or ineptitude, that neither attempt succeeded. 1/
I have also self harmed, a lot. It was a release of emotions which I couldn't contain. To put this in very simplistic context, have you ever had a stomach ache so bad you have considered piercing your belly to let it out? Imagine that constantly, but with emotions. 2/
Any parent, I would hope, wants the best for their child. Sometimes that does involve telling them to stop being an "idiot". It does not mean ignoring what they are going through or accusing them of gaslighting you. Sometimes it's the parents who need to grow up. 3/
Telling response to @sturdyAlex. Yes, many people do consider we are equal, and should be treated as such. Making comments such as "stupid liberal" does not change that. I may think those like Whale are cretins for example, but still believe they deserve equality of rights.
Having seen James' timeline it seems likely he QTs this with some suitably inane response which he thinks appeals to his followers, but demonstrates to the wider world he is just looking for "hate clicks" because he has nothing useful to say before blocking me.
Many people believe in equality though, and believe it deep down. There's no reason not to. To not believe in equality means you see others as "less" than you, and, unless you are a supreme narcissist, others as "more" than you.