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Is... is Mr Motivator giving Coronavirus advice on #r4today?
In centuries to come, archaeologists digging through the embers of our civilisation will happen across this interview and conclude, not without justification, that Mr Motivator was the man who led us out of our darkest hour.
I don’t mean for this to sound cynical, btw. This interview is genuinely motivational. It’s the most uplifting thing I’ve heard in weeks*.

*Mellow Magic FM excepted.
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We can fact check Brexit lies, & debunk their conspiracy theories, & that's what we've done for five years.

But there is one myth that Brexiters still cling on to, & that is "sovrinty", because it has no evidence, & it can't be fact checked.


#r4today @lbc #PoliticsLive
That is why Johnson's govt announced that it is "prioritising British sovereignty" over everything else in Brexit trade negotiations with the EU; pitching the undefinable as the marker against which we must measure their negotiating success.


@lbc #r4today #PoliticsLive
Things that matter less than sovrinty acc. to Johnson's govt:

Food shortages
Medicine shortages
Doctor shortages
Nurse shortages
Social care
Service sector
Automotive sector
N Ireland

Nothing measurable matters.

Only sovrinty

@lbc #r4today #PoliticsLive
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Johnson's govt finally publishes *some* economic analysis on a UK-US trade deal:

Economic benefit is expected to be £3.4bn - equivalent to 0.2% of UK GDP*

*This is unchanged from analysis by May's govt in 2018

#r4today @lbc #newsnight #PoliticsLive…
The UK economy in 2019 was £2,200,000,000,000 (£2.2trn).

The govt thinks a US-UK trade deal us worth £3.4bn.

This is Brexit's sunny uplands.

#r4today #politcslive #Newsnight #c4news
Govt analysis says Scotland and North East will benefit the most from tariff free access to US.

Where's the cost of a no deal, currently called an [imaginary] "Australian deal" by our lying govt.?

Here's the 2018 govt analysis.


@lbc #r4today #politicslive #c4news
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A university, a TV station, a magazine - any platform - necessarily, selects whom it features. It isn’t a denial of far-right loons’ free speech. None of us have a “right” to a particular audience. Your free speech does not confer on anyone else an obligation to listen. #r4today
Classic example of this misconception. Ok, then. Let’s explore this: I demand to address all of Durham university, next Monday. Is it a denial of my free speech that they’re under no obligation to acquiesce?

You no more have a “right” to address a university than I have a right to demand the Telegraph prints an article of mine, every time they print one by Johnson, rebutting him. FFS it’s not a tricky concept. Your right to speak does not equal an obligation on others to amplify you.
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1/6 Disgusted by both the timing and the extent of the coverage given to POTUS's 'peace' plan for the middle east on #r4today this morning at 8.49 (six mins). Important points were raised. The UK government has backed it; POTUS has no real interest in the issues. The betrayal
2/6 plays well amongst his base of evangelical christians who believe that handing Palestine (the 'holy' lands) to the Jews is an indication of the second coming of Christ (it's in the Bible). 85% of US evangelical christians are therefore Zionists (they don't like jews
3/6 necessarily, antisemitism is as much of a problem there as it is across the world) whereas only 45% of US jews are understood to be Zionists.
It's believed #Netanyahu will annex the Jordan Valley on Sunday, he has no time to waste because of his indictment on fraud etc.
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So that's the end of 'just-in-time' manufacturing and the death knell for the car/plane industry in all those traditional Labour areas the Tories just won seats in. As predicted, all the Tories care about is deregulating their chums in the city. #r4today…
Also the end for UK pharmaceutical industry. Even Switzerland understands it has to align with EU regulations to maintain a thriving, and very lucrative pharma sector.
And as for UK farmers who rely on EU exports, like our lamb industry, I fear they just become completely uneconomic as tariffs are imposed on our deregulated industry, destroying traditional rural ways of life and patterns of landscape management.
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THREAD: Let's actually look at some of what @MPlainDS was talking about on #r4today. First of all there was a heavily implied suggestion that migrants drive down wages.
Multiple studies have demonstrated that migration has a negligible effect on wages. 1/
Where it does the consensus is that it is predominately a net boost to them rather than depreciating them. Where there is a negative effect, typically found in low skilled, low paid employment it is ironically existing migrant populations who see the largest impact. 2/
This negative effect tends to be around a 0.3% to 0.6% decrease, which is offset by a reduction in the price of goods providing an overall minimal increase in disposable income in many cases. As has been demonstrated for more than 100 years migrants also increase jobs. 3/
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Listening to @Keir_Starmer on #r4today railing against austerity, I wonder whether he might have a word with whoever was Director of Public Prosecutions in 2010, sitting silently by as the Crown Prosecution Service had its budget slashed by a 1/4 and its workforce cut by a third.
Worth adding this interview carried out upon his departure. Concerningly, he maintained that the cuts had had no effect on CPS performance. His employees would tell you something very different.…
To save the accumulation of straw men in the replies, no this does not disqualify him from running. Nor does it mean he may not be the most suitable option. I just think it’s important to remind people that cuts to criminal justice matter. Bit of an obsession of mine.
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Interesting to be on #r4today after @ph_lamberts who was indeed well informed about UK politics. He provided an interesting insight into the EU view that the PM is now under pressure to move to a 'softer' Brexit with more alignment with EU rules. I find this hard to see (1/4)
The PM has consistently rejected on-going alignment with EU rules. Indeed, he resigned from Cabinet over it & fought it from the backbenches. Some suggest he caved over NI & therefore will again. But any moves made then were to reduce UK wide alignment not increase it (2/4)
So the incentives of the example of the first phase actually run directly counter to the incentives at play in the next phase. The first phase of negotiations are therefore not a good precedent for PM view on alignment & should not be over interpreted (3/4)
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1/ On truth and lies, George Orwell’s 1984 has never seemed more relevant:

“The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”


“And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. 'Who controls the past' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past’.”

3/ “A mass of Latin words falls upon the facts like soft snow, blurring the outline and covering up all the details. The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one long words...”
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Nice to hear an intelligent discussion about how we manage cancer.
The science of cancer treatment is such that getting a high cure rate means getting a substantial complication rate.
The complications can be highly damaging to the quality of life and frequently fatal.
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Which policies in the Labour Manifesto directly target a marginalised group?

Tories have got rid of most legal traveller sites, what will happen to the children when their homes are seized and their parents locked up?
#r4today @bbcnickrobinson #VoteEducation
How about the fact the Tories are still trying to deport black British citizens?
The #Windrush scandal continues?
#r4today @bbcnickrobinson
#GE2019 #torymaths…
What of 9 years of systematic persecution of the disabled?

@bbcnickrobinson #r4today
#GMB #GE2019 #torymaths…
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The anti-Labour bias on #r4today has been so extraordinary in the first hour that anywhere else in the world it would be a scandal. Remember that the BBC is a publically funded broadcaster and it is meant to be following election rules. I can give 3 examples. 1/
Not content simply to read out right wing newspaper headlines attacking Labour and Corbyn, it now feeds these headlines and reads them out. Was that the purpose of inviting the ex-Labour MP Ian Austin on to give 10 minute uninterrrupted smear of Corbyn? /2
It seems only Labour policies require fact checking, even though on the same programme Tory policies are announced. And what is this fact checking? Simply reading out the Tory and CBI attacks on Labour's policies. How is that independent fact checking? 3/
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Another day, another #r4today vox pop in a northern Labour seat with angry elderly 'I was Labour all my life but...' people. There is an inevitable sample bias if you walk around the streets on a work/college day.

Anyway, let me tell you a bit more about vox pops.
In broadcast there are templates for a 'package'. They always include some 'colour'. That's what the vox pop is. It's just a production device, of little more value than the 'set up shot', where you see an interviewee walking past the camera before you hear them speak.
The vox pop simply breaks up the item a bit. Production value.

Because media literacy is quite low in the general population I imagine many casual news consumers don't know this & think they are conveying 'news'.
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.@PhilipHammondUK says the Prime Minister's proposals: "were never going to fly." #r4today
@PhilipHammondUK Hammond: "For too long we've allowed this narrative of third country trade deals to determine everything we do...but they would make only a tiny contribution to our GDP and standard of living."
@PhilipHammondUK Hammond says he "would not support an election at the moment."
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A thread- Labour & the #IrishBorder. Last night @jonsnowC4 interviewed @Keir_Starmer on @Channel4News. Starmer put forward Lab's Customs Union idea as the solution, Snow then picked up this idea & asked him about a Norway deal. 1/
Despite what Starmer implied, a Customs Union on its own would not stop customs checks. It was only when the UK & Ireland joined the Single Market in 1993 that customs checks vanished. Lab oppose being in the Single Market. 2/…
As it is, Norway is in the Single Market. But, as it is not in the EU's Customs Union, there are checks. @Freight_NI points out its one lorry every 35 sec on #IrishBorder at the moment while there's a delay of 10 ins on Norway/Sweden. 3/
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This is such an appalling article in the @guardian that you would think @Kate_M_Proctor and @mwolferobinson would be embarrassed to put their names to it. 1/
Since when has democracy been anti-feminist? There is no evidence whatsoever that trigger ballots have been motivated by some male conspiracy, or by the equally nonsense allegation of antisemitism 2/
This non-article, of which both so-called journalists have done no external research for whatsoever, contains no evidence or corroboration at all. What then is the point of it, except to to produce an anti-Labour headline? 3/
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Impressive information op by Johnson's team today, apparently assisted by the BBC, if #r4today is any guide. Here's how it's working.

Two days ago Johnson outraged opponents by telling a female Labour MP her fears about wartime analogies in light of Jo Cox's murder were 'humbug'
Last night Leave campaign director, now no 10 svengali, Dominic Cummings, said it isn't surprising that people in the country are angry that Parliament hasn't agreed Brexit.

However, the precise words used by Johnson are no longer mentioned, in favour of just "language".
The government has successfully reframed the issue and the BBC is apparently allowing it.

This has been a feature of Brexit politics ever since the referendum began. Better framing by Leave, with the help of most media. And the ignorance of continuity Remain.
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Not being funny. But @jeremycorbyn that is the worst plan I've ever heard. How is your leadership potential going to surprise 100 interviews of not having an opinion on the most important issue facing the country?

"you stay neutral on" memes are writing themselves
Let's just think for a moment jezza. Not saying you're wrong. Just a bit of PR role play.

1. Ok you want to be neutral because why?
A) you have no opinion
B) you have an opinion but don't think you should share it

Both of those are already a leadership car crash
2. You think this will in someway heal the country, that it's adult to "stay out of the fight"

But 1. They'll say that didn't stop you taking sides in Palestine
2.rather than peacemaker do you risk bring a care in a dog fight? The only thing they unite against?
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KCC leader Paul Carter says accelerated progress has been made since the Operation Yellowhammer document was drawn up. (Also incorrectly claims that OY represents "the worst case scenario") #r4today
"Issue is to make sure that the haulage and logistics industry understand what paperwork is to clear customs." So his implicit tack seems to be that it will be their fault if things go wrong.
"As long as we get satisfactory progress on how the customs clearance model will work, and communicate that effectively to the logistics industry, I'm pretty confident we will avoid disruption in Kent." Will Paul Carter turn out to be the Michael Fish of Brexit?
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Even wilder thought: Boris Johnson gets so desperate he offers Nigel Farage a merger. Renames the party the "Conservative and Brexit Party".

Likelihood: slim to none.
Hair-raising potential: infinite.
Logic: NF will never ever go away. UKIP and now the BP will keep harming the Tories for so long as Brexit persists (which we know will be years and years) even if their power wanes after Brexit Day. And euroscepticism will always be the Tory disease. Throw it all in the mincer...
And NF said this morning on #r4today that the Brexit Party would get out of the way if Boris Johnson pivots straight for no deal. So there are cosying up noises on both sides.
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Philip Hammond confirms he’s going to support the rebels bill. The former chancellor is on track to be kicked out of the Tory party. He “thinks” they have the numbers. #r4today
Hammond is threatening legal action if he loses the Conservative party whip. The former chancellor says he’s been a Tory member for 45 years and has no intention of going anywhere. #r4today
Hammond says we’re in Brexit stalemate: “There is no progress. There are no substantive negotiations going on.” #r4today
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David Gauke tells #r4today that he believes Boris Johnson’s strategy is to lose votes on blocking no deal - and then go to the polls. #electionahoy
Gauke says if parliament fails to pass a law this week, there’s a 95% chance of a no deal Brexit. #r4today
Gauke admits “the numbers may well be very tight” for passing a law to stop no deal this week. He says it’s an uncomfortable position for him to be in. #r4today
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