This is particularly worth considering because a similar meta-analysis found that the rate of stillbirth was reduced by 15% among those vaccinated in pregnancy - rather less than the 27% reported here… 2/
As I’ve mentioned before, people who take medical advice and get vaccinated in pregnancy are also likely to be taking care of their health in other ways which might improve outcomes, and this might make vaccination look better than it really is. 3/
Most studies try to take this into account by controlling or matching on factors that we know are correlated with or indicative of healthcare seeking behaviour, such as socioeconomic status or whether a person has got their flu vaccine. 4/
This gives us what is called an adjusted odds ratio, or aOR. What Alex is asking here is why the stillbirth rate in this meta-analysis was calculated using the unadjusted odds ratio, or OR, for one of the biggest studies. Won’t that inflate the apparent effect? 5/
Yes, and that’s probably why this meta-analysis finds a larger protective effect than the previous one.
So why have they used this approach? Two reasons… 6/
First, not all the studies included in the meta-analysis have an aOR, and this one instead gives an adjusted Hazard Ratio. aHR cannot be converted into aOR so the authors have taken the raw data and calculated an OR from it. But the paper contains insufficient data to adjust. 7/
2. They pre-specified that this would be their approach. So even if - as Alex suggested to me in DM - they decided to change their statistical approach after the fact to take account of this, this would not be ethical… 8/
… since the whole point of a systematic review and meta-analysis is that we publish what we will do before we start. This prevents cherry picking of data, or fiddling analyses if we don’t like what we find. 9/
I hope you found this trip into the bowels of SR and MA helpful! 10/10
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mRNA degrades quickly, so it’s possible we haven't detected vaccine mRNA in the placenta because we didn’t look quickly enough.
To address this, the authors look at placentas for two babies born two and ten days after their mothers received a dose of COVID vaccine. 2/
The authors used a much more sensitive form of PCR than has been used in previous studies, called ddPCR. This technique also tells us whether the mRNA is intact. 3/
This came out while I was away last month, so I didn't post about it at the time. But I talk about it on @SkepticJonGuy's video released last night, which prompted me to share a few (belated!) thoughts... 2/
RSV is the leading cause of death in babies <6 mo, and is implicated in 50% of hospitalisations for respiratory illness, so development of a vaccine is a priority.
I should declare an interest here... my baby son was very sick with RSV 😢 and I would have loved to avoid that. 3/
@davidicke Hi David. Independently-generated data looking at safety of COVID vaccines in more than 360,000 people vaccinated in pregnancy find no increased risk of any pregnancy problems.
How do we reconcile that with the spontaneous reporting in your video?... 🧵
@davidicke First, for context... it would probably help you to realise that those 458 spontaneous reports were out of approximately 48,000 people who had been vaccinated in pregnancy at that time. 2/
@davidicke And these are reports of events that occurred after vaccination. There is no requirement that the events are thought to have occurred because of vaccination.
@MarkWar16520311 To understand adverse effects of vaccines, it helps to think about the phases of the immune response. First, we have the innate response, which we might think of (roughly) as being inflammation. This lasts from minutes after vaccination to 48 hours-ish. 1/
@MarkWar16520311 Most adverse events happen in this timeframe and whenever we see inflammation-type symptoms (sore arm, fever, myocarditis), we should straight away be thinking: that might be the vaccine. 2/
@MarkWar16520311 Of course, some of those are so well-established (and mild) that we don't even investigate them anymore (sore arm, fever). But this logic is one of the reasons that myocarditis was taken quite seriously as a potential side effect (and indeed turned out to be one - rarely). 3/