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💊NATTOKINASE Survey Data💊
Interesting results!
Efficacy appears to ⬆️ w total daily dose (TDD). While 2000-4000 FU TDD looks similar, efficacy appears to improve around ≥6000 FU TDD w/ most taking ≥4000 FU twice daily. Note no one reported feeling worse at ≥9000 FU TDD.🧵 ImageImageImageImage
Charts shows Overall improvement on scale of 0 (no benefit) to 10 (full recovery): 77% reported some level of improvement.👍
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Q: Does ACID RESISTANT COATING affect efficacy?

I believe yes, but there is a possible confounding factor: 28 out of 36 respondents who took NK w/ enteric or acid resistant coatings were taking COMBOS with SP and a few with additional ingredients. However...
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Many of the other respondents in the "no coating" category were ALSO taking SP (separately), so I do not believe it to be a large confounder. The results are quite stark:
No coating (n=132) vs coating (n=36):
52% vs 83% felt better; 9.8% vs 0% felt worse👇 ImageImageImage
The acid resistant & enteric coated brands used were:

Dr's Best SP + NK (n=17)
Solaray (n=9)
Neprinol (n=4)
RedFood (n=4)
Naturally Vitamin (n=2)

See graphs comparing Dr's Best NK (no acid resistance) vs Dr's Best NK/SP (acid resistance +SP), two of the most popular brands👇
Dr's Best Natto-Serra appears superior to NK alone. It's unclear if this is due to the serrapeptase, the acid-resistant coating, or both.

Dr's Best Natto-Serra vs other acid-resistant brands yielded somewhat similar efficacy, but the sample size is quite small (n=19 vs n=17). 👇 ImageImage
Out of the brands with no acid-resistance, sample size is low so take w/ grain of salt:
A shout-out to "Best Naturals" NK which performed particularly well.
NOW performed the worst.
Brands with n≥9 shown below in chart.👇 Image
Side effects & herxing with nattokinase: less than half reported herxing. Some side effects in ~1/3 but most didn't override benefit.

Most common side effects (n=102) shown in chart.

(Menstrual cycle changes % is likely higher since only a portion of respondents menstruate.) ImageImage
Only 18* respondents took NK+LK on the same day. When broken down by dose, hard to draw any conclusions due to small sample size. I'm including the raw data here in chart form for anyone interested.
*n=20 but two of the results were from the same people trying different doses Image
That's all for tonight. Will post more results of other supplements in the coming days. #longcovid #MECFS
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nature.com/articles/s4159…
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Dear Friends,

How are you? I've been on a Twitter break, but I wanted to provide an update.

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#1: NK, LK, SP
pharmd.substack.com/p/treat-me-sur…
#2: Immunoglobulin
pharmd.substack.com/p/treat-me-sur…
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#TREATME
Check out the charts for #longCOVID & #MECFS to see how enzymes like NK stacked up against aspirin, Plavix, DOACs (example: apixaban), and heparin. I won't do a deep dive until I gather more data & close the survey but wanted to share some data so far!🧵
Very Quick thoughts:
1) Oral anticoagulants alone looks subpar in #pwLC likely bc they only prevent clot formation & don't degrade existing microclots. Goal is to give body a break so it may clear clots on its own, but some may be too sick to achieve this.
1) cont..
Also note small sample size, so can't draw strong conclusions yet.

2) Many #pwLC may have hyperactivated platelets so it would stand to reason than antiplatelet meds would help. While just 38% reported aspirin ALONE helped, 60% benefited from dual antiplatelet therapy.
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