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Oct 25 7 tweets 4 min read
These comments by Judge Glenn in the Celsius matter should be brought to Judge Torres’ attention. The Judge is right to point out that cryptocurrency cases in the US may raise issues for which there is no controlling authority and the excellent paper of the UK Law Commission/1
may be persuasive in dealing with such issues. This is a passage from the same Law Commission paper the judge referred to which amply shows why cryptos such as #Ethereum #XRP and #Bitcoin are not securities /2
Bitcoin and Ethereum are referred to but the point holds equally well for XRP. DLT facilitates by electronic means the exchange of data between different participants in the same network but the data represented by the crypto asset does not provide rights to anything outside /3
the network. For XRP although Ripple in its business participates in the network and owns the most tokens it offers or obtains no rights or obligations from other XRP holders outside the network such as a share in profits. There is no right or obligation as an XRP holder /4
that i can legally enforce against Ripple. The extract from the Law Commission paper then refers to examples of security tokens which are something very different from Ethereum or XRP. /5
The Law Commission paper sees crypto assets as a new category of personal property. /6. @JohnEDeaton1 @attorneyjeremy1 @FilanLaw @freddyriz @s_alderoty @MoonLamboio @MarketsMickle
This is why the number of XRP Ripple owns is irrelevant. It doesn’t change the above analysis. The Law Commissioners who prepared this paper understand crypto assets far better than the SEC attorneys. /7

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I have now had a chance to properly consider the SEC's reply to Ripple arguments on the need for certain 'essential ingredients', including a contract, for there to be an 'investment contract. The SEC goes to some lengths to mischaraterize Ripple's attempt to construe /1
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Here are some preliminary points. I will start by making the point that the legislature (Congress) makes laws and courts interpret and apply laws. The starting point is the 1933 Securities Act. The Act creates the concept of an investment contract not the Howey case. /1
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I have seen a lot of comments about the Chamber’s Amicus brief not helping Ripple but being good for XRP holders. To a point this may be correct. The Chamber wants the court to differentiate between the transaction involving a digital asset which may be an investment contract /1
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inquiries. The exchanges would be happy if the Court drew a line at offers by an issuer or promoter and not find digital assets themselves to be securities in most instances. The exchanges would be happy with the Chamber’s arguments. /3
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Ok. It is consistent but broader. Attorney Tenteiro focused on efforts to improve utility or increase adoption of XRP which can fall within terms in the Framework document such as development, improvement or enhancement. But here is where I have a problem with the Framework, /1
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