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@P_Kallioniemi
Oct 29, 2022 • 9 tweets • 4 min read • Read on X
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Today's Finnish #vatnik is a former powerlifter turned politician and evangelist,Ano Turtiainen (.@TurtiainenAno). Since 🇷🇺's invasion of 🇺🇦,Ano has become a proponent of Putin's politics. He has spoken against all 🇷🇺 sanctions and has criticized "war crimes committed by 🇺🇦". 1/9 Image
His views are also anti-NATO and anti-EU.Ano himself has said that he would like 🇫🇮 politics to be similar to Trump/US doctrine.His rhetoric follows the typical 🇷🇺 disinfo playbook:the decadence of West,conservatism,corruption of 🇺🇦,NATO's "proxy war" & COVID-19 conspiracies 2/9
Nowadays all of this is also decorated with religious babble and declaration of the end times. He has also stated that everyone who gets the COVID-19 vaccination will die in the near future and has compared the whole event to Holocaust. 3/9
Initially Ano was part of the True Finns group,but was sacked after he shared a mocking image of George Floyd on Twitter. After this, he started another party, Valta Kuuluu Kansalle (VKK;"Power to the People") and chose ex-MP James Hirvisaari (.@JHirvisaari) as his assistant. 4/9
People have been speculating that Hirvisaari is the mastermind behind Ano's adorable speeches. James was also fired from True Finns in 2013. He once invited a well-known 🇫🇮 far-right figure Seppo Lehto (see image below) to the Finnish Parliament. 5/9 Image
VKK mostly consists of 🇷🇺 apologists who share the same views as Turtiainen. Ironically, Ano has also limited the power inside VKK to a very small group - I guess the "power to the people" doesn't apply in all situations. 6/9 Image
Ano is also a convicted criminal. In 2015, he published a post on FB inciting the destruction of Finnish immigration centers and encouraged people to act against the Finnish Red Cross. For this, he was convicted of incitement to criminal behavior. 7/9 Image
He later commented that among True Finns this conviction is only a "feather in his cap". Ano has also been convicted three times of battery. In 2010, he was convicted of assaulting a 14-year old boy. His previous battery convictions are from 1995 and 1997. 8/9
Turtiainen has had many businesses and most of them have failed. His powerlifting-related company, Gometal Oy, filed for bankruptcy in March 2022. He also owns a snack bar called Wiikinki Grilli, but apparently it's been closed, too. 9/9 Image

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In this 4th Debunk of the Day, we’ll refute an absolute classic of vatnik BS, the crown jewel of peak dishonesty: whataboutism.
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But when someone pulls some completely unrelated event, that happened to completely different people, a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, you know what you’re dealing with: a crass denial of the problem at hand, a bad-faith attempt to derail the topic.
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In this 3rd Debunk of the Day, we’ll talk about… “ending” the war by surrendering or ceding territory.

Nearing four years of the 2-day “special military operation”, Russia is desperate to obtain through other means what they failed to conquer on the battlefield.
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An endless army of vatniks therefore tries to demoralize both Ukrainians and supporters.
They sound noble: “anti-war” or concerned about the fate of Ukraine’s civilians, soldiers and cities. They claim that if we just stop fighting or helping, this horror would magically end.
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Jan 30
In today’s Debunk of the Day (2), we’ll look at… nuclear blackmail. Vatniks love using Russia’s nuclear threats as a reason for surrendering or for not lifting a finger to help Ukraine: “see, they have nukes, we have to give them whatever they want”.
The argument is absurd:
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Nuclear deterrence has been a reality for decades. Both the US and Russia have lost wars without resorting to nukes. We are not submitting to the whims of Pakistan or North Korea either. For vatniks, it’s just an insidious way of siding with Putin.
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We can’t just give in to the Kremlin’s nuclear blackmail, to the threats their officials and propagandists make five times a day to scare us into letting them have something they know perfectly well is not theirs, with no limit to their appetite.
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Marta hails from Ukraine, where she studied history at Ivan Franko National University of Lviv. She received her PhD in history in 2010. Her academic work focused on gender-based violence and wartime atrocities, including publications on sexual crimes in occupied Ukraine.

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She is currently working as a visiting Assistant Professor at the Strassler Center for Holocaust & Genocide Studies at Clark University in the US. According to the center’s website, Marta teaches courses on antisemitism, racism, and gender-based violence in armed conflicts.

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