#RobodebtRC With overwhelming evidence suggesting former DSS Deputy Secretary Serena Wilson pushed for income averaging knowing it was illegal, Justin Greggery KC is absolutely blistering as he squeezes out some inconceivable admissions.
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I’ll be rolling back the tape on some of the early hearings from the commission with related info where possible.
In respect of Wilson, she insisted she couldn’t recall key meetings & discussions she had with senior figures including Morrison….
Note she directly reported to Morrison, and her role was to provide policy advice to him.
Evidence revealed she was aware from back in 2015 that using income averaging was illegal
She had meetings with Morrison prior to the scheme going ahead but says can’t recall much from it
Evidence showed that she sought legal advice & was advised that it was illegal.
Despite this, she wrote in response to an Ombudsman enquire that their scheme checked out legally. Utterly false.
She even met the Ombudsman to discuss further but didn’t mention the illegality
So this these clips are where it all came undone for Serena Wilson, as Greggery KC was relentless in his pursuit for truth.
Have a good Saturday all. I’m out so I’ll check on later again tonight. 👯
Wow. So there is a Part 4 here, somehow I’d missed it.
Serena Wilson confirms that Malisa Golightly told her that:
“Mr Morrison wishes to proceed in a way that DID NOT require legislative change.” #RobodebtRC [4/3]
Very interesting, of course we know Scummo went on to deny Senate numbers being a contributing factor, and whilst it’s not super clear cut, I think, it is extra evidence that Morrison was pushing to get Robodebt going without leg. change being required, bcoz of the Senate issue.
Also she conceded that after receiving complaints about income averaging from her own staff, including a senior staffer Murray Kimber, she didn’t do anything about it. Says she was foolish. KC insists it was a conscious effort to turn a blind eye.
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#RobodebtRC Heating UP 🔥 as Catherine Dalton is shown an email she received stating legal dept’s advice:
“An omission or failure to act (on leg. change) can only attract CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY when at the time of the failure there was an existing legal duty to perform the act”
So DSS had this advice from the legal dept (early 2015)
Dalton is shown a series of emails within her dept. where even management were raising questions.
Her dept sent email to DHS saying leg change is reqd.
Dalton claims she doesn’t know what happened after that.
Commissioner then shows her an email (which she says she can’t recall sending) where she raised further concerns to DHS. The reply she got is vague but she says she assumes they took her concerns seriously. doesn’t recall much else
#RobodebtRC ACOSS’ serious concerns weren’t addressed by Minister Tudge, so they went straight to the PM.
But action the LNP took after hearing these concerns is absolutely gobsmacking.
If there hasn’t been enough evidence that the LNP knew about the horrors of the #Robodebt & just didn’t care, this is pretty clear cut.
The concerns went all the way to the top, sighting all the health outcomes, tragedy & suicides
LNP’s response is to expand the scheme further
Back on the hearings, former DSS Catherine Dalton appearing (via video-telle-link).
Greggery KC asking questions.
Being questioned on meetings with DHS, her understanding of averaging etc.
#RoboDebtDC “THEY WERE DISMISSING THE HUMAN COST”
Dr Goldie accuses the LNP of turning their back on victims after she made it clear to them that suicides were climbing.
Says she was shocking that in response, they tried to expand scheme to ppl with a “Vulnerability Factor” 😳
They are providing pretty compelling evidence that they told government, even the PM DIRECTLY at the time, about this, but they DISMISSED their concerns.
“It’s shocking that the government continued with the scheme”
“They knew about it from the start”
Dr Goldie says one of the WORST parts about Robodebt is that there is
“STILL NO PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY FOR WHAT OCCURRED”
#RoboDebtRC Listening to one of the victims give her story, unbelievable, unbelievable. Please watch on. It’s making me cry.
In tears she says
“These constant accusations of apparently doing the wrong thing…”
“I’d often go without food, so that my kids would have more food”😢❤️
Freeburn KC such a beautiful soul, asking the questions & letting her speak.
Sandra Bevan, a victim, has a strong recollection of the trauma she was put through. Speaks of wanting to commit suicide at times. All on a debt that was FALSE. 😔
“I will never access Centrelink benefits EVER again”
Not worth it she says. She can’t go back there. Too traumatic.
#RobodebtRC As we enter the final day of hearings for the year, sending out a big thank you to these 4 legends. What a team! Wishing them Happy Holidays & looking forward to more of their great work in 2023. ❤️
Today’s is a big session, with 5 witnesses listed, its going to be hard to see how they get through them all. This is largely thanks to a particular witness on Wednesday who waffles on for 10 minutes per question & had no answers….
Dr Cassandra Goldie & Charmaine Crowe will appear from the council of social services to shed light on impacts on welfare recipients.
Jarrod Kagan from Probe group, a govt.’s debt collector agency at the time