Thread by @Loyal2tGo17

Yellow: Maybe an "indigenous coding"
Green: anti-indigenous coding

#orcs

FWIW, this is the entry that the MM would use for ACTUAL TRIBAL HUMANS

Can we complain about that? Sure! No issue. It needs improvement. Also: its for wargame-sized groups and tells you what you want to know for a wargame.

also THE PICTURE OF THE ORCS

and ANOTHER thing.... Hobgoblins have almost exactly the same writeup in the text as Orcs. Tribes, Chiefs, rivalries, Building on the ruins of "more sophisticated creatures" etc.

Hobgoblins can actually talk to carnivorous apes.....