A large incel forum survey found that 71.5% of the respondents reported being on the autism spectrum: nationalpost.com/news/inside-th…
Another survey found that 18% had an official diagnosis, while a whopping 74% were self-diagnosed. Regardless of the level of accuracy to these self-diagnoses, it shows at the least that autism-like social difficulties are unsurprisingly highly prevalent in this community.
This massive overrepresentation also carries over 'incel-related' mass killers turning out to have been diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder.
Beginning with the infamous Elliot Rodger, who was diagnosed with PDD-NOS (another defunct subtype of autism) in 2007.
The anonymous hacker known as 4chan also revealed that he asked Yahoo Answers whether he was allowed to buy a gun in California while having receiving benefits for 'mild autism and anxiety'.
Next up Alek Minassian, who spergily proclaimed: "The Incel Rebellion has already begun! We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys! All hail the Supreme Gentleman Elliot Rodger!"
He was also diagnosed with autism, for which he attended a special needs school.
Then we have Jake Davison, another certified sped who was diagnosed with autism as a child, and who expressed dismay about being an 'unemployed, autistic, poor, sexually frustrated male with tons of health issues'.
Nikolas Cruz, who also praised Elliot Rodger, writing in a YouTube comment: "Elliot Rodger will not be forgotten", was diagnosed as 'developmentally delayed' in 2002, and in a 2016 report was reported to suffer from depression, ADHD, and autism.
Chris Harper-Mercer of the 2015 Oregon shooting, who said that "My whole life has been one lonely enterprise. One loss after another. And here I am, 26, with no friends, no job, no girlfriend, a virgin. I long ago realized that society likes to deny people like me these things."
While those concerned about the danger of such an association are likely right to point out that autism doesn't inherently make one violent, it can't be denied that it is often a factor in leading young men like this down dark paths, as the social alienation and lack of...
...sexual/romantic success can leave them feeling hopeless and misanthropic.
What the solution to this is idk, but clearly society is failing autistic males and the consequences of leaving them in isolation to possibly fester in dark corners of the internet can be disastrous.
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Here we go again. This 'app-driven chadopoly' theory is totally evidence-free. It's all based on overly simplistic extrapolations from imbalanced swipe rates and many men having low match rates. This says next to nothing about what actual behaviour these apps are facilitating 🧵
Swipe rates in a vacuum provide negligible insight. For one thing--at least partially owing to the skewed gender ratio--many men adopt a spray and pray approach to swiping, filtering out any undesired matches after the fact (which swiping data doesn't capture).
When we look at the median match rates, we see a ratio of about 1:2.75 M:F, which happens to mirror the gender ratio. This means that after adjusting for the gender imbalance, the average woman is actually matching at the same rate as the average man.
In a study by Scott & Ward (2018), observers rated the mental health, attractiveness, physical health, and masculinity of composite faces made from men who scored the highest or lowest in AQ (Autism), IDS (Depression), and SPQ (Schizotypy).
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Easy to mistake the 'low' and 'high' as referring to scores on the traits listed on the right, but low 'actual mental health' implies they score higher on the traits and vice versa.
What we see is that despite the fact that the composite images with low actual mental health were accurately perceived as such, only men high in schizotypal traits were rated significantly lower in attractiveness.
Data from Pew Research's American Trends Panel Wave 103, conducted in Feb 2022.
The article based on the survey done later that year didn't break this down by age.
38% of single men and 31% of single women between the ages of 18-29 reported not seeking relationships.
So the rates of 50% and 65% of men and women not seeking relationships was being highly skewed by older people, especially for women.
Taking the single rates of this survey into account, 22% of 18-29 men and 10% of 18-29 women were both single and not seeking relationships.
So according to this, there may be more MGTOWs than WGTOWs after all.
The rates were equal in the APS survey however, with about 20% of both 18-29 men and women being single + not looking.
Is obsessing over sex a cope?
There are some people who seem to think that men's purpose in life should be to score the highest 'body count' and that this would bring them great fulfillment. What we find however from The National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent to Adult Health..
Is that lifetime vaginal sex partners, vaginal sex partners in the past year, and even past year vaginal sex acts (so not necessarily promiscuity related) don't seem to have a positive association with mental health in either women or men.
If you weren't satisfied with your life before hypothetically becoming a 'slayer', you probably won't suddenly be filled with zest for life after either.
At least after the fleeting moments of pleasure have faded.
Everyone assumed that the HCMST 2017 data showing the percentage 'meeting online' shooting up was being driven by dating apps, but it turns out that only 10% of the 39% who 'met online' met through dating apps, which is a lot more in line with data from a variety of other sources
It's probably understated a bit due to OLD sites that predated smartphones not being included, although they've also developed app versions.
Still, probably not by much, as the 2022 Pew OLD survey showed 9% of straight respondents meeting through OLD in general.
Morning consult showed 10% meeting through OLD in 2018, rising to 13% in 2021.
I've been wading through the NSFG survey data the past few days to see how much it agrees or disagrees with manosphere memes.
Especially this semi-viral meme that went around of a screenshot from a small 'paper' on 'sexual loneliness' citing some outdated NSFG & GSS data...
The NSFG data supposedly showed that while the top 5/20% of men in lifetime sex partner counts reported higher counts in 2011-13 than 2002, women didn't. There were issues with this, as if you look closely at the source study it shows women did actually rise at least as much...
proportionally for the most part and most of the effect when it came to the top 5% of men was concentrated in hispanics catching up to the rest, and somehow although only blacks were apparently at 50 mean partners in 2011-13, the overall rate was listed at 50...