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Mar 8 5 tweets 2 min read
It’s worth reflecting on what happened in the early days of #nodebate, circa 2015-2018

Radical transactivists aggressively pushed their relatively new ideas about gender identity and self-ID, of course, and pushed for a blanket non-discussion attitude in public life
As part of this, notably, they rounded on medicalised transsexuals, who they mocked as ‘trutrans’. The men who had been taking female hormones for decades, who had got all the surgeries, perhaps understandably felt they were more ‘trans’ than the likes of Danielle Muscato
And they were attacked for it, their ideas were also stamped upon by #nodebate. This is a key aspect of this very weird political moment, because this is the backdrop against which late 2010s self-ID policies were introduced
What #nodebate (which was also internal) did was create an atmosphere with absolutely no accepted public discourse. This was a key part of the strategy (you have to sneak bad policies in through the back door) but it also built the post 2015 trans movement’s downfall
Because if you don’t debate, in fact you shut down debate, you don’t bring people with you. And when you’re living in your own ideological bubble, ignoring public opinion, it’s very easy for even a public that‘s generally pretty accepting to say ‘hmm, I’m not sure about this’

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