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Mar 9 17 tweets 5 min read
This! Somehow we have made undergrad education in India even worse and cutthroat and utilitarian and grade chasing and job chasing than ever.

And we have a lot of public thought leaders randomly crapping on college education as a concept, citing Zuck and Jobs and Thiel etc.
Around the world, undergrad college education in this century has evolved towards a more Inclusive broad based learning oriented approach. For example, many top universities have made GRE, GMAT, and recently even SAT optional.

India has gotten even more JEErankish.
Yes! "Brand dilution" it seems.

America has like 100 massive high quality research universities with huge number of engineering and MBA seats. Population 33 crore.

But more than 6 IIT/IIMs in 140 crore India is brand dilution.

It's gatekeeping!

India should have all least 100 IITs, IIMs, IIScs, and JNUs.

China has invested soooo much in quality education!

Our fellow just does extremely dangerous exam hacking public events. Uses some Sanskrit. Sends ABVP to beat up liberals. That's education policy in #NewIndia
As sleazy as Xi is, he is making investments strategically. It is mind boggling, how much money China is pouring into education. Using money to get academics on their side to such an extent that America is filing espionage cases. He's at least trying to play 4D chess.
I totally agree, but having 100 of them means clearing entrance will no longer be as much of a big gatekeeping factor at it is now.

In US, sure, top colleges are really good but even the 100th ranked college gives you great education.

The fact that IITians still discuss their AIR (all India rank) decades later shows how creepily and unproductively gatekeeping the whole system is.

And I say this as a beneficiary of the IIM label. It really is mostly about clearing CAT and then getting a job 2 years later.
Our fellow is more interested in fueling anti reservation grievances rather than expanding capacity. He is more interested in playing favorites than building the nation.

His dudes literally attack universities! And are all over the Internet bashing humanities. And humanity.
My IIM label is just a result of CAT, a test designed to favor kids like me who have solved those types of tests before and who have the social or monetary capital for extra training and practice.

And they take pride in CAT being unpredictable. 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️
That IIM label helped me parachute into a nice PhD program in the US. Which is where I finally learned what actual real education and learning is.

Made me realize that JEE and CAT are almost dystopian bad as ways to select students for quality education. Like parody level bad!
If you were to give an educator in the West a brief to write a hunger games type dystopian script in a deeply flawed unequal world, to keep favoring the elites and the wealthy and keep the masses down, they would come up with JEE and CAT. One shot one score tests.
An actual national interest based education policy would first at least turn JEE or CAT into standardized tests that can be taken year round. And then make sure they are just one of criteria for selection.

JEE/CAT are more swayamvars than entrance tests.
But see, that is the problem! Why do we need high percentiles at all for MBA?

As a business academic, I can tell you that an MBA is a course that almost anyone can do! It isn't surgery or theoretical physics or piloting to demand high selectivity.

Engineering and MBA are both professional courses and can be done by almost anyone without a learning disability.

By randomly putting up these low clearance rate rankings and percentile based entrance exams, all we do is keep people out. It's like a reality show.
They can also be done by people with learning disabilities.

That's the thing. India has a completely wrong headed approach to education. It's still about "1% acceptance rate" and all.

It's basically an auction where social capital is currency. Why Kota prep industry exists.
Precisely!

JEE CAT are basically education concierge services. Like first class in planes. Or fast lanes at Disneyland. If you have the capital, social or financial, you get preference!

Other countries are trying to go in the opposite direction.

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For me it's

1. Root
2. Smith
3. Kohli
4. Williamson

And that's very close margins. I couldn't explain why Kane is 4th for me.
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Steve Smith bats like someone with cheat codes from EA Sports.
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"I'll see you at 2:45? No, 330! Cos detention! 😁"

"Why are you smiling at my detention? 😡"

" 🤣🤣 Cos since Archie comics and breakfast club days, I've been fascinated by this concept but never actually known anyone getting it."

"You're weird"
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This is the first time in my life that I'm rooting for Australia to beat India in a test match! 😳
#INDvAUS
That's not anti India. Anti BCCI. Because of the lurid spectacle they did, making it all about him.

Also I genuinely think 2-2 would be a fair result for this series. We've bashed Australia in 3 straight series. I wanna see the old Aussie fightback.

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Goggle tey mufflore

Ball maango bhaiyya haath jara jodke

Ayyy baat ko samjhaane toh de!

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Anyone remember that? Who has those videos from the 90s?

Could you ask your dad please @shahidkapoor?
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I came with these exact same preconceptions and teaching my first class back in 2007 showed me how wrong I was.

The average college student in the US is way smarter and more worldly wise and well rounded than we realize. And has a good work ethic too.
I have tweeted about this before. How we in India think we have the highest levels of academic competition cos our cutoffs are so brutal and our admissions so dauntingly selective.

My unpopular opinion is that NY/NJ kids face way tougher more intense competition than India.
Everyone who went to Harvard wants to send their kids to Harvard.

Everyone with any discretionary income to spend on their child also, if possible, would like to send their kids to Harvard.

Immigrants pouring in also want to send their kids to Harvard.

But supply is limited.
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