I physically had to run here and I still was late.
A Committee sub keeps SB 150 and adds … sounds like a lot of HB 470
OK, keeps SB 150's original language + "a much more condensed version" of HB 470, Rep. David Meade says.
Requires districts to create bathroom policies, ban on gender-affirming medical care.
This committee sub is NOT available online, obviously. #KYGA23
This offers lawmakers two similar anti-trans bills to choose - HB 470 in the Senate and SB 150 in the House.
Again, I can't spot the difference because they're discussing a bill that is not available to the public and gave the public five minutes of leeway to get to the cmte
Three people were able to get here in time to oppose
Chris Hartman, Mason Chernosky and Emma Curtis - all folks who have testified against anti-LGBTQ legislation repeatedly this session - are at the mic.
.@MasoninKY says he keeps hearing from families and trans kids, and so much fear. He pleads with lawmakers: Do not do this.
Emma Curtis says she initially detransitioned due to the shame. She's transitioned back.
She says several lawmakers have talked to her in their offices, telling her it goes too far.
"May God have mercy on your souls."
Curtis: I would thank you for your time ... but for the first time I wish I wasn't a Kentuckian
Chair James Tipton waits maybe 30 seconds before calling for the vote. They are RUSHING. #KYGA23
🚨 An eleventh hour resurrected and significantly expanded SB 150 -- now banning gender-affirming medical care -- easily passes out of the House Education Committee 16-5.
It goes to the House floor. The bill sponsors walk out.
To recap:
After GOP discord threatened HB 470, lawmakers resurrected SB 150, gave six minutes notice for a sudden hearing, RUSHED through a hearing on something NOT publicly available, and now can pass it like ... now.
“This is the cheapest trick they can pull!” Fairness Campaign leader Chris Hartman says of the sudden meeting.
House is back.
And they're going straight to a vote on SB 150
It has been one hour since the committee meeting was first called. Insane.
Rep. Keturah Herron, a Black LGBTQ lawmaker, making a point of order and going after I believe Rep Josh Calloway, a white man who said last night he is being oppressed.
Herron says it was "very clear" they were trying to pass SB 150 without Dems being there.
She points out the meeting was called for during the House's lunch break. The mics weren't on in the House for the announcement. They couldn't hear.
Herron makes a motion to table the bill. It fails
Ooo - Rep. Lindsey Burke asks if this meeting violates the open meetings act, which requires public notice 24 hours in advance.
Full new version of SB 150 in a thread starting here
Just messaged Michael Abate, open records lawyer, re the open records question.
He said we could file a complaint for a violation but it would go to ... lawmakers.
It is important to note SB 150's sponsor Sen. Max Wise is running for lieutenant governor.
Is *this* how he plans on running Kentucky's state government? #kygov#kyga23
Rep. Rachel Roarx first to read the suicide crisis hotline - 988 - into the record today.
Rep. Derrick Graham is making a motion to see if the cmte sub is germane to the initial language of the bill.
Speaker David Osborne rules it is germane.
Rep. Tina Bojanowski, who left the committee room in tears like several others, is speaking now. She says she didn't know if she was going to be able to stand.
Rep. Cherlynn Stevenson asks how this isn't a piggyback. Osborne says it isn't a piggyback if it is a committee sub
Rep. Nima Kulkarni asks about the timeline.
Osborne says she needs to focus on the content of the bill.
She's challenging that.
Kulkarni says Hinduism acknowledges transgenderism and gender fluidity. It isn't something new being forced upon Kentucky's kids, she says.
Rep. Josie Raymond asks about the support from those in KY - or lack thereof.
"Ignorance of children's individuality, children's agency, children's value, children's futures and children's understanding of who they are.
"The disdain that this body shows for children astounds me."
She softly weeps.
Rep. Brown is talking about the ice caps melting. Osborne tells him to remain on topic.
Brown says it *is* germane, comparing it to, I believe, "a soup"
Rep. Pamela Stevenson asks if there is anything in the bill to protect kids from gun violence.
Stevenson asks Meade to define "sexual identification."
Meade: I think it is what you identify as.
Stevenson: this bill is not Godly
Stevenson is preachin'
At least half of the House Dems have spoken against SB 150 - and they have all taken the long way 'round.
We are now about 7.5 hours from the veto period.
Rep. Sarah Stalker asks the House if they oppose teaching kids the difference between a good touch and a bad touch.
No hands go up.
Just realized there are several young pages in the House rn.
As a reminder: More than half of trans and nonbinary youth said they seriously considered attempting suicide in the past year – and 24% of them attempted it.
Another thing to note about the HB 470 / SB 150 will they won't they:
Part of the reason HB 470 is paused is because some in the GOP thought it initially went too far, so they softened the language, but now others think it is too soft.
SB 150 has the harsher care language.
Rep. Cherlynn Stevenson: "The word 'fiasco' comes to mind."
Stevenson encourages trans youth to NOT read the bill if they're struggling.
Rep. Ruth Ann Palumbo brings up @MasoninKY's testimony, saying his testimony brought tears to her eyes because you could hear the pain in his voice.
Two hours of debate are up, they're voting.
OMG they just voted to adopt the committee sub - not on the bill itself. I did not realize they hadn’t adopted the new language.
They have NOT voted on SB 150 itself yet.
Meade is responding to multiple criticisms of the process, the bill, the criticisms, etc.
He is citing a poll that I'm not familiar with that found two-thirds of Kentuckians want this. I'd love to see that source.
He says lawmakers have heard from "children" who were forced to transition and have detransitioned.
The rate of regret on gender affirming care is 1-2% - incredibly low.
And the person who detransitioned they had speak is now in her 20s.
All Dems are standing as Rep. Daniel Grossberg calls for a floor amendment. #kyga23
Motion to suspend the rules to hear the amendment fails. It got 19 votes - that's when I realized Dem Rep. Ashley Tackett Laferty is seated and did not vote.
Rep. Rachel Roberts says today has been a one-sided debate.
Outside of Meade, I don't think anyone spoke in favor of the bill.
Roberts says she respects Rep. Josh Calloway's conviction to stand last night for what he believes in. Where is everyone today, she questions.
🚨 SB 150, three hours after its filing, is about to pass 75-22.
It now goes back to the Senate, which must agree with the changes and send it to Beshear by 11:59.
Rep. Ashley Tackett Laferty, D-Martin, was the sole Democrat to vote in favor of the bill.
Republican Reps. Kim Banta, Stephanie Dietz and Killian Timoney voted against.
Rep. Kim Moser, who opposed HB 470, passed. #KYGA23
So, now, the Senate can concur with the changes - sending it to Beshear.
They can reach an agreement on HB 470 and pass that instead, sending it back to the House for concurrence, then send to Beshear.
They can refuse to concur on either bill....
If that last option happens, a group of lawmakers from both chambers will meet in a committee and try to find a compromise. Then pass that, send to Beshear.
Or they could ... not do anything.
House in recess.
SB 150 just got added to the Senate's concurrence orders of the day.
SB 47 - the medical marijuana bill - is on the orders.
Sen. Damon Thayer says they will take up SB 150 first when they get back.
HB 470 is not on the orders.
OK I'm in the Senate now, where senators are beginning to file in after caucus meetings.
Expecting SB 150 to come up for a concurrence vote soon. #KYGA23
(Concurrence just means they need to agree w/ the House's changes)
Sen. Damon Thayer calls for SB 150 and Sen. Cassie Chambers Armstrong immediately calls for an objection. #KYGA23
Chambers Armstrong: I believe it is improper to vote on SB 150 when a substantially similar bill (HB 470) is currently laid on the table. #KYGA23
Lawmakers now have 6.5 hours until veto period
After some discussions of rules, Chambers Armstrong's move fails.
We're moving into SB 150's concurrence debate.
We are voting. Berg is no.
She initially said yes and some folks in the back laughed at her.
Berg seems to suggest former Rep. Jerry Miller's testimony against the bill meant more to some Rs than a body of medical evidence
Boswell is a yes.
Carroll is a no.
Both R, Berg is D
Carpenter, R, is a yes.
Chambers Armstrong, D, is a no.
Deneen, Douglas, Funke Frommeyer, Girdler, Givens, Higdon, Howell, Mays Bledsoe, McDaniel, Meredith - all Rs - are all yes votes.
Meredith was a no on HB 470 in committee, but is now ranting about abortion.
Harper Angel and Neal, D, are no.
So far, Carroll is the lone R voting against.
Nemes, Adams, Schickel, Smith, Southworth all yes.
Stivers, Storm, Thayer, Tichenor no.
Thomas yes.
Tichenor is trying to explain the impact of gender-affirming care on human bodies.
Berg, an actual medical doctor, is livid.
Turner, West, Westerfield all yes
Westerfield says he does so "reluctantly"
Westerfield says everyone who voted in favor of the softened language last night to HB 470 got "blasted" with hundreds of emails.
I have questions.
Wheeler, Williams are yes.
Williams alleges there is a multi-billion dollar industry in trans kids
I don't believe that's true.
Williams says to believe in your 30, 40,000 cells tell you about who you are
Solid argument in favor of gender-affirming care tbh
Wilson, Wise are yes
Yates is no.
Webb, a D, is the final person to vote.
Webb is a YES.
Tally is 30-7.
There was an audible gasp when she cast her vote
🚨 SB 150 is going to Gov. Andy Beshear’s desk after the Senate confirms the House’s changes on a 30-7 vote. #kyga23
Senate Bill 47 - the medical marijuana bill - is being heard on the Senate floor.
.@ACLUofKY statement just now: "ACLU-KY policy strategists and attorneys will continue to analyze the final version of the bill. If this unconstitutional measure becomes law, our legal team stands ready to see the commonwealth in court."
And given how some Senate Rs think HB 470 goes too far, hard to see how HB 173-as-a-floor-amendment is successful / torpedoes the entire thing before the veto period.
As I explain here, getting the House and Senate - and all of the factions within - to agree by 11:59 p.m. Thursday could spell doom for not just HB 470, but *all* "parents' rights" and anti-trans legislation in KY.