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Long Covid sufferer talks about her positive experience with Tollovid 'complete resolution of symptoms' Vs Paxlovid: setbacks of reinfections— her struggle to even get Paxlovid—Pax rebound—the side effects of it & potential Stem cell therapy for LC

'I ordered it online and within two to three days
the burning of hands and feet and the headaches went completely away. So I do believe that there was a complete resolution of symptom—of those two symptoms from the Tollovid'
'The GI pain and the chest tightness did seem to linger
for a few more weeks but by the end of May, beginning of June I was feeling pretty good.I felt like pretty much all of the symptoms had resolved'
Like many,Jacquelyn,struggled to get Paxlovid during her acute infection and subsequent reinfection:

'So I just want to rewind back for a moment because in April when my husband tested positive I did call my doctor and I did ask him..
..if I test positive would I be able to get Paxlovid?

So his response was:

"I certainly can prescribe Paxlovid to you I don't know if you're going to find a pharmacy to fill it for you"

He said he had two other patients that had asked for Paxlovid...
He wrote them prescriptions and they were not able to find any local pharmacies to fill the prescription.

This is Burbank, California!

This is not some remote area and he couldn't find any pharmacies to fill the prescriptions..

..so this was in April.
So obviously I didn't have any Paxlovid at that time.

I got monoclonals and then I ended up taking the Tollovid.

So that brings me to mid-June, when as you guys know
my son went to summer camp.

He tests positive for COVID. I end up developing symptoms.
I end up getting a sore throat and I'm feeling really tired. So at this time I do end up asking my doctorif I am able to get Paxlovid. This is a different doctor,this is a long COVID doctor...
...and he is able to get me Paxlovid from a local, kind of like a local mom-pop pharmacy. So I want to also just talk about right there about the accessibility of getting Paxlovid: Accessibility to Paxlovid'
She then goes on to talk about other hellish stories of elderly relatives who've struggled to get hold of Paxlovid, and the incorrect advice they were given about it by medical professionals.
I've heard this story a lot with Paxlovid and it's even worse in the UK: In the US pharmacists are able to prescribe Pax, whereas in the UK even GPs cannot prescribe it: only hospitals and by the time that happens it's often too late
One of my contacts,a US citizen who lives & works in UK was recently infected at work after forgetting their mask at home, and they had to have Pax fed exxed from the US as it was the only way they could get hold of it 'nobody cares here' the exact quote from them about Covid..
...in the UK: and it's so true, if you think it's hard in the US then try living in the UK: IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

Anyway, she then talks about the notorious side effects of Pax:
'So I did start taking Paxlovid like I mentioned for this June infection and the main side effect I had was an awful, awful taste in my mouth and it's something that I can't even describe. Some people have described it as metallic...
...It did not taste metallic, it just was awful and honestly, I couldn't even concentrate or think about anything else for those five days besides that awful taste in my mouth. Now I know that other people have had other side effects...
..I didn't have anything that I was aware of as for side effects from Paxlovid.'

Next she talks about her experience with the much dreaded Pax re-bound:
'So I do believe that I did experience a rebound.

So I had a sore throat and fatigue for the first few days.

I did wait several days before I even started Paxlovid to avoid this rebound. My symptoms started on a Thursday. I took Paxlovid on Monday....
..Monday night was my first dose. So, the last dose was on the following Saturday. I in general, like, didn't feel great during that time I had a sore throat, I felt tired, but it wasn't until the Tuesday after I had stopped Paxlovid that I just got hit really, really hard..
...with symptoms. I was so tired I had to lay in bed for three days,my sore throat was awful, it felt like strep. So I definitely feel like I was one of the people that suffered that Paxlovid rebound even though I waited, you know, four days or so to even start the prescription.'
Tollovid is a powerful, natural 3cl protease inhibitor:

Both tollovid and Paxlovid are 3cl protease inhibitors:

This is how 3cl protease inhibitors work:

'The Role of 3CL Protease Activity in Coronavirus Reproduction 3CL protease Image
• Virally-encoded enzyme • Required for virus replication and transmission
• Conserved across all nidovirus coronaviruses • 34kD trypsin-like cysteine protease with a unique cleavage target preference'

'The Role of 3CL Protease Activity in Virus Reproduction and Disease.. Image
..3C and 3CL Proteases of HRV, Picornaviruses, SARS, MERS, COVID-19 and other Nidoviruses share a common catalytic mechanism of action called “trypsin like Cystein Proteases” 3CL in COVID19:

-Responsible for driving viral replication'
Tollovid is a powerful natural 3cl protease inhibitor over-the-counter supplement for long covid, no..

Use the code 'enemyinastate' to get 10% off using the link below
#Sponsored

mytollovid.com/?sca_ref=35921…
......RX needed from Drs who don't understand this virus or believe in it anyway.

Jacquelyn then talks about the multiple Pax contraindications:

'Also, there are contraindications with Paxlovid in other medications.Some patients are told not even to start Paxlovid because..
it can interfere with some of their other medications.'

The package insert for Paxlovid shows just how many contraindications there are not just with drugs but with illnesses and conditions many are likely to have: many people I think will not be aware

fda.gov.ph/wp-content/upl… Image
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'I do believe it can help with acute infection and possibly long COVID as well. Also, the length of time that you can take Tollovid is much longer. I was on it for 30,35 days without having any side effects or anything that I was aware of and I felt that it was beneficial for me.
Obviously, Paxlovid is a five day course and you don't really have access to taking it longer than that
and I don't even know that anyone would want to take it longer than that, but there is obviously that limitation with Paxlovid.' she says.
I will stress at this point, that Tollovid is not sold as an alternative to Paxlovid for acute infection:

that's what she is saying as a Long Covid sufferer: Tollovid is not sold for acute infection—so please be aware of that.
Tollovid is sold as a supplement for long Covid and acute long covid. However, her opinion appears to be from her experience that it could be used that way: that statement is hers, not mine, nor the companies.
The most recent update on her channel is a video from 3 months ago in which she talks about starting stem cell therapy for LC and having some initial improvements from it.
She says that she has found herself to have what we consider to be the Covid Acquired Immune Deficiency stage of the virus after suffering from an endless stream of infections with multiple other viruses and seems extremely annoyed as her kid keeps picking stuff..
..at the super spreader school and bringing it back home to her:

'So in July of last year, 2022, I did go and get stem cells. And at that time the stem cells did help me. They gave me energy. I was able to start a new job. Back in the fall, I started to get into a regular..
...workout routine and generally I was doing pretty good,aside from the fact that my kids kept getting sick at school.
So I just kept getting random viruses, colds, sinus infections, stomach flus, all of those things. So it was sort of up and down for me at that time.

The recovery period it wasn't really consistent because I kept having these breaks..
..where I was picking up other viruses from my kids.'

Lost track of how many times we've heard this story by now : clear covid immune damage: no doubt about it:

Then..
This lead to yet another Covid reinfection in Dec 2022:

'And then in December, my son tested positive for COVID. And despite mitigations, I ended up also testing positive.'
As such she plans to try more stem therapy in the future, as of that last update.

Stem cell therapies have been used in MS—a disease which has many 'overlaps' with Long Covid, with varying degrees of success over the years:
mssociety.org.uk/about-ms/treat….
As such, it has been proposed as a potential therapy for Long Covid:

eurotreatmed.co.uk/post-covid-syn…
Stem cell therapy is not always without risks: depending on what therapy is being used exactly and duration, so anybody interested in persuing that I would urge them to investigate that side of things as well before trying it.
Her channel is only quite small on YouTube but it has some interesting stuff on there and she's done well to document the treatments she's tried: obviously, she benefitted from Tollovid and Pax and has highlighted the issues with that: the stem cell stuff is very interesting..
..but it must be said, highly experimental so quite how that will pan out over the longer term we will have to see.
She's now 2 years into the long Covid hell and like so many is plagued not just by relapse and set back as the virus reignites, but also endless reinfections...

A situation as alarming as this—which is now so many people—it's hard to think anything other than:
get your kid out of the school asap and save yourself: because you really just can't sustain these repeated infections. Neither can the kids. It's just not safe. The stakes really are that high.
THIS 'SICK ALL THE TIME' is not something trivial: it's telling us something about what Covid and long covid really does to the immune system:

I'm not sure she's aware of this, but she makes actually a great case study due to all the things she's tried: LC researchers should probably contact her and she's got tried so many things at this point

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