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Dec 23, 2023 β€’ 16 tweets β€’ 7 min read β€’ Read on X
Godot Forums and The Mirror, the next Roblox-like platform, announced a business partnership.

What does it mean to @GodotEngine's supposedly bright future? πŸ™ƒ

#TruthAboutGodot

Read the thread below. πŸ§΅πŸ‘‡ Image
To start off, Ariel Manzur, co-founder of Godot, has come on board with The Mirror as a technical advisor. Similar to Juan Linietsky, the lead developer of Godot, he represents Godot PLC and retains a permanent seat at Godot.

prnewswire.com/news-releases/…
Juan Linietsky, another co-founder of Godot, once floated the idea and tested the waters within the Godot community, seeking their thoughts on platforms similar to Roblox. He posed some "philosophical" questions and even collaborated with Ariel on a similar game in the past.


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Several notable Godot maintainers and contributors, like HP van Braam (Godot's plumber, member of Godot PLC), Aaron Franke (C# maintainer), Gordon MacPherson (added FBX format support): all work at The Mirror. Image
Several months ago, Godot Forums was acquired by Mike Lundahl, along with his company.

In his blog, Mike Lundahl posted a video titled "Building A Great Community With Godot Forums!"

mikelundahl.com/2023/09/29/bui…
Mike Lundahl did not talk about The Mirror back then, but he mentioned the "business side of things".

Mike removed the thread that accused Godot of being a grift, and forum users perceived it as a form of censorship.

Mike does not share details. πŸ˜‰

web.archive.org/web/2023072108…

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Mike, just your typical admin in the Godot community, hands out bans left and right. Back in the day when I could still post, I got a private message from a user. He wasn't thrilled about Mike's rules and announcements. This was way before The Mirror partnership took place. Image
I described the broader context to him in private. Some of these conclusions may be slightly out of date, but they demonstrate the business relationships of Godot, W4 Games, The Mirror, etc.

For more elaborate info, you can read this article:

waiting-for-blue-robot.gitlab.io/governance/wai…
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Mike ended up pulling off various antics, such as recreating "Welcome" threads and locking them, probably just because I and others raised the question about the deleted thread. Image
The user I had a private chat with shared his perspective on all of this.

He also commented on how the name "Godot" foreshadows these problems. More information on the choice of the name can be found here:

waiting-for-blue-robot.gitlab.io/organizational…
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The next day, this user informed me that Mike locked the thread discussing the rules and that Mike didn't respond to his question. As a result, he's pretty displeased with Mike, as you can imagine.

I shed my own perspective on Mike's wrongdoings too! Image
Eventually, as expected, Mike banned me after I made a post on the topic of Telemetry in Godot Engine, where I attempted to discuss the topic, posting Clay John's words on the Godot team having a "productive discussion about some light opt-in telemetry."

godotforums.org/d/35841-teleme…
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If you're curious about the business plans of Godot and The Mirror, rest assured that this partnership holds considerable importance for Godot's seemingly bright future... πŸ™ƒ

I've also shared some posts discussing how Godot's simplicity serves as its driving force, preference for GDScript over industry-standard languages like C#, and how these technical decisions come into play with the requirements of The Mirror:

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Jul 25, 2023
A case study for everyone interested in knowing how cults operate and their thinking processes, as seen in some #OpenSource communities.

They adore their leader, and despite facts, are unable to recognize Juan's undue influence over followers of Godot.

#Psychology #Godoctor
He insinuates that people with negative experiences have no right to "ruin it for everybody". This narrative implies that the information could somehow ruin the entire project. If words hold such power, it raises questions about Godot's true capabilities.

Eventually, the follower of Godot uses other insinuations in an attempt to undermine the authority of the critic and labels genuine criticism as a conspiracy theory, which is typical behavior of members who are part of a toxic cult.

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Feb 17, 2023
Godot leadership banned a Ukrainian maintainer amidst Russian invasion of Ukraine, which became the straw that broke camel's back.

Many people misunderstand my motivation on why I talk about Godot's wrongdoings for so long.

Read further! πŸ§΅πŸ‘‡

#GodotEngine #TruthAboutGodot
While I do have an emotional attachment to the project, which shows absolutely all signs of being an actual cult, as a former member of it, it's my ethical duty to talk about it. Some people may not understand the entire notion of ethics or duty in the first place, though...
Godot leadership's political stance against a Ukrainian contributor and maintainer has lead to unprecedented consequences for Godot leadership. They didn't expect that I'd continue talking about their wrongdoings for so long, and they thought that they could get away with this.
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Feb 15, 2023
The admin of Godot forums keeps locking the discussion concerning Godot's governance.

Several people attacked my character in a thread which discussed the fact of Godot leadership founding commercial companies for Godot.

web.archive.org/web/2023021519…

#GodotEngine #TruthAboutGodot
Non-archived version available here: godotforums.org/d/32795-commer…
Someone in the discussion asked what kind of goal I have in mind. After the discussion got locked, I asked him the same question in private.

He left the private conversation, that's exactly how cultists operate, they don't answer the questions. πŸ˜‰
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Sep 7, 2022
When I say that Juan keeps striking community with his stupidity, I mean it. @reduzio expresses his "Messiah complex", once again.

"What kind of jokes are these?", you may ask. Let's see what #Godoctor says about Juan, cult leader of #GodotEngine.

#CancelGodotEngine #GodotCult
The "Messiah complex" of Juan stems from his desire to save the world from those "evil" corporations. Taken together with above, he probably wants to show that he's a "Superman":

But perhaps this has more deep roots. Recall the "Thanos" tweet of Juan? Perhaps this "Godot meteor" is connected with his desire to "purge" the userbase that use "commercial software"?

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Aug 14, 2022
Godot leadership betrays their ideology!

Lead developer @reduzio and project manager @Akien launched a commercial company called W4 Games!

Free and #OpenSource game engine wants to have a cake and eat it too!

#GodotEngine #CancelGodotEngine #TruthAboutGodot #GameDev
W4 Games website.

Notice how Godot leadership deliberately leaves out important information when they say it's a company of "Godot veterans", but those "Godot veterans" and Godot leadership are the same persons.

w4games.com
Feel free to familiarize yourself with my previous threads on this topic to understand why Godot is not community-driven and my explanation of why the mentality of Godot leadership is not open as you might have expected:

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Aug 12, 2022
Juan "The Great", aka @reduzio, once said:

"The world does not care about you or what you think, or about your world views. Keep those to yourself."

These are petty tyrant's advice that undermine critical thinking, creativity, individuality...

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Opinion on the above @reduzio advice from someone who does not have an idea what #Godot represents.

In retrospect, I was highly attached to #GodotEngine, and I used to think that there's something wrong with me.

Having access to outside opinion is crucial.

#GodotCult #IGotOut Image
So yeah, I did reach out to someone from the outside, as you see above. Otherwise, I'd still be contributing to Godot and continue being deluded by Juan's cult indoctrination.

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