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@WilemElliott @wef To anybody who was thinking of taking Wilem seriously as he whined about the fact that I blocked him - take a good, long look at this bad faith response of his

"and what geology do you have from Venus?"

tucked in, troll style, as a reply to the first tweet in a storm.
@WilemElliott @wef There's a whole line of argument that continues on after that tweet, but he's going to try to play that sneaky little game of replying to the first tweet, so the lurkers won't see the others.



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@WilemElliott @wef As a matter of fact, probes have been sent to and put in orbit around Venus, so a fair amount is known about the geology of that planet, albeit nowhere near as much as is known about the geology of our own world.



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@WilemElliott @wef Further, the atmosphere on Venus has been sampled and, if I recall correctly, turned out to be heavier in deuterium than in protium in the way one would expect to see if Venus were a former ocean world that lost its water to UV disassociation ...



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@WilemElliott @wef ... after the rising luminosity of the young Sun increased the temperature on Venus to the point at which its stratospheric cold trap broke down, and water vapor rose high enough to encounter an increased UV flux.



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@WilemElliott @wef As for Wilem's whining about the block, take one good, long look at what he did the moment he saw that my block was down, and that I had replied.

He posted a bad faith reply to the first tweet in a storm.



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@WilemElliott @wef He changed the subject with the kind of subtlety that comes with something called "low cunning." Wilem isn't all that smart, but he's smart enough to know how to put one over on the even dumber people he's trying to fool.
@WilemElliott @wef See comments above, in which said man-child's attempts to be sly get unpacked. Had I not blocked that weasel, that poor excuse for a man, he would have played the same game on every first tweet, until there were so many branches in the discussion that nobody could follow it all.
@WilemElliott @wef Trolls like Mr. Elliott play that game all. of. the. time and we all know it. They take advantage of that s t u p i d character limit @jack dreamed up when he posted that pretentious dribble about "urban haikus," breaking into chains of discussion with misleading responses.
@WilemElliott @wef @jack In this case, the misleading response hilariously blew up in the guy's face, in part because he was an ignorant layman talking to somebody that he didn't know was a graduate school educated scientist.
@WilemElliott @wef @jack He just assumed that nothing could be known about the geology of Venus, perhaps because a geologist who tried to walk on its surface would die quickly.

True enough, Zog, but there are these things called "robots." 🙄
@WilemElliott @wef @jack But one can't let somebody as devoid of integrity as @WilemElliott continue to play that game. If I had not blocked him again, that's exactly what I would have been doing, bringing us to yet another reason why Elon Musk is a f o o l.
@WilemElliott @wef @jack When somebody posts a bad faith response, the debunking of the bad faith response takes more verbiage than the making of it did. Given the forced sound bite usage, this leaves the rebuttal vulnerable to the same game, and trolls will play it.
@WilemElliott @wef @jack They'll break into the rebuttals posted to their bad faith responses with more bad faith responses, and the whole mess will grow exponentially, until it's unreadable, leaving truth vs. falsehood breaking down to one stranger's word vs. another stranger's word.
@WilemElliott @wef @jack For somebody who would otherwise be caught in multiple lies, this is a wonderful deal, but should such people get wonderful deals?
@WilemElliott @wef @jack When a "rule" that somebody is trying to push (eg. "Thou shalt not reply then block") radically empowers liars, one can not support it and still credibly claim to care about the truth.
@WilemElliott @wef @jack To support it is to forfeit any trust a sensible person might have put in one. It is to be a "man" like Wilem, the sound of loud mouthed, overgrown little boy who can make women as dry as the West Texas dust from a hundred paces away, in just a few words.

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