๐จ โ๏ธ Good afternoon #LukeCrew! 8/1/24, Day 2 Part 2 of the #TinaPetersTrial! #TinaPeters faces 10 criminal charges for election interference, identity theft & more. Judge Matthew Barrett presiding. Trial resumes 1:35pm local (3:35pm EDT). Live feed:
โญ๏ธ Check out Chris Dehghanpoor @chrisd9r's thread about when Mike Lindell learned about the search of #TinaPeters's office here:
As the search warrant was being executed, Tina was boarding her flight to Mike's event in South Dakota.
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As the search warrant was being executed, Tina was boarding her flight to Mike's event in South Dakota.
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https://x.com/chrisd9r/status/1425251685807521795
Here's the ThreadReaderApp of this morning's #TinaPetersHearing bombshell coverage:
#TinaPeters Cliffhanger: Defense counsel says outside the jury's presence that Conan Hayes was a "REGISTERED INFORMANT!" More will be revealed...threadreaderapp.com/thread/1819033โฆ
#TinaPeters Cliffhanger: Defense counsel says outside the jury's presence that Conan Hayes was a "REGISTERED INFORMANT!" More will be revealed...threadreaderapp.com/thread/1819033โฆ
๐ More from Chris with #TinaPeters speaking at #MikeLindell's:
John Whitehouse @existentialfish: 1st symposium I've ever seen where the person is talking about their office being raided with a search warrant while they were on the way to said symposium.
John Whitehouse @existentialfish: 1st symposium I've ever seen where the person is talking about their office being raided with a search warrant while they were on the way to said symposium.
https://x.com/existentialfish/status/1425255817390043143
โญ๏ธ Thanks to Erik Maulbetsch for sharing his great article about the Tina Peters search warrant being executed while she was with Mike Lindell in South Dakota. From the Colorado Times Recorder. @emaulbetsch: some more background on this: coloradotimesrecorder.com/2021/08/mypillโฆ
Real photo of Mike Lindell wearing a tinfoil hat. #MikeLindell is deeply implicated in the #TinaPetersTrial, he paid everybody. While #TinaPeters flew to South Dakota for Mike's Cyber Symposium, her Colorado election office was raided. She's facing 7 felonies/10 crimes. #MyPrison
#TinaPetersTrial: Why doesn't this surprise us? ๐ Tina Peters' attorney is Dan Hartman of Michigan, currently representing Stefanie Lambert in her election tampering felonies. h/t @genmy891 #OnlyTheBestPeople
detroitnews.com/story/news/polโฆ
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https://x.com/genmy891/status/18190427141695776
โ๏ธ Welcome back to The People of the State of Colorado v. Tina Marie Peters, District Court Judge Matthew Barrett presiding. Before lunch, Tina Peters (in ankle monitor) attorney Dan Hartman was cross-examining Mesa County Chief Inspector James Cannon. #TinaPetersTrial
Tina Peters' attorney Dan Hartman asks Cannon what crimes he was investigating. Cannon: There was an unauthorized person in the room, recorded. Hartman asks about passwords, Objection sustained. Common with Tina's defense.
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Puzzlingly, Hartman digs into keycards: "Is it a crime to use someone else's keycard?" Cannon: "It might" Hartman: "If I go in a door behind somebody else with a keycard, is that a crime?" Cannon: "Could be a tresspass." Objection! Asked & answered. Sustained. ๐ฃ#TinaPetersTrial
Hartman returns to phone call transcript. Hartman: You said these are the same passwords on the internet as current. They have a screenshot of the passwords that SoS confirms are same... Who's they? Code Monkey Z?
Cannon: Whoever has the passwords (not specific).
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Cannon: Whoever has the passwords (not specific).
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Hartman: Peters was concerned right?
Cannon: She said preposterous, I guess some concern
Hartman: How did you know they weren't connected to the internet?
Cannon: Because they weren't connected to the internet. ๐
Hartman: Wireless? Objection. Sustained.
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Cannon: She said preposterous, I guess some concern
Hartman: How did you know they weren't connected to the internet?
Cannon: Because they weren't connected to the internet. ๐
Hartman: Wireless? Objection. Sustained.
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Dan Hartman goes down a line talking about James Cannon's call with Peters. Peters had interrupted Cannon and she says she heard Cannon say recording video was a crime. Multiple objections, bench conference, moving on. โ
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Hartman: Tina asks, who from my dept is there to monitor the search warrant? Did you ever answer that?
Cannon: I don't believe so.
Hartman: Is it true you can get an expert to help you?
Cannon: Yes, it's on the search warrant.
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Cannon: I don't believe so.
Hartman: Is it true you can get an expert to help you?
Cannon: Yes, it's on the search warrant.
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Hartman: You asked about password hacks that could lock out BIOS password?
Cannon: I was investigating computer crimes.
H: What crimes would you charge?
C: Computer crimes CRS.
H: So now you're looking for facts and trying to find a crime?
Cannon: NO.
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Cannon: I was investigating computer crimes.
H: What crimes would you charge?
C: Computer crimes CRS.
H: So now you're looking for facts and trying to find a crime?
Cannon: NO.
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Hartman: Did you ever cover the windows?
Cannon: Yes, on the 2nd search warrant.
Hartman: But you said Belinda could look through the window.
C: (was on video) It changed for 2nd, sensitive info inside.
H: Do you know the rule an election official must be present?
C: Not familiar
Cannon: Yes, on the 2nd search warrant.
Hartman: But you said Belinda could look through the window.
C: (was on video) It changed for 2nd, sensitive info inside.
H: Do you know the rule an election official must be present?
C: Not familiar
Discussion about what was on Tina's desk (after she sent stuff home allegedly because of threats).
*** End of cross ex, redirect***
Shapiro asks about Peters or Belinda contacted Cannon (their contact) about problems. He says no.
Bench conference.
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*** End of cross ex, redirect***
Shapiro asks about Peters or Belinda contacted Cannon (their contact) about problems. He says no.
Bench conference.
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Shapiro: Did Tina or Belinda give you any details of threats or hacking to investigate?
Cannon: No.
Shapiro: What's the most sensitive room?
C: Tabulation Room
S: Was a card ever made for, or was there any paper log entry for Conan Hayes?
C: No.
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Cannon: No.
Shapiro: What's the most sensitive room?
C: Tabulation Room
S: Was a card ever made for, or was there any paper log entry for Conan Hayes?
C: No.
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Shapiro: Who would investigate BIOS password dissemination?
Cannon: SoS
S: Are BIOS passwords considered confidential information
C: Yes.
Redirect complete. Bench conference before next state's witness.
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Cannon: SoS
S: Are BIOS passwords considered confidential information
C: Yes.
Redirect complete. Bench conference before next state's witness.
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#TinaPetersTrial: The next prosecution witness is Jessie Romero, Voting Election Manager for the SoS office in Colorado. They conduct risk-limiting audits with bipartisan judges reviewing the receipts. 16 years of experience. Supervises 3 people.
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Shapiro asks Romero about Statutes - State Legislature & Rules - Fill in the gaps (Statute may be broad)
62 counties in Colorado. Do they all use the same systems? San Juan is smallest, but have a mini version.
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62 counties in Colorado. Do they all use the same systems? San Juan is smallest, but have a mini version.
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S; What is a "trusted build"?
R: We take updated software and install it on county systems.
S: Which counties chose Dominion Voting Systems?
R: All except Douglas & Garfield, they use Clearballot software, all others Dominion.
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R: We take updated software and install it on county systems.
S: Which counties chose Dominion Voting Systems?
R: All except Douglas & Garfield, they use Clearballot software, all others Dominion.
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Romero: They are done in odd years, when election staffers have time. Sometimes in between if new equipment, we'll install it, but that's more random vs. trusted build routine. There were also COVID issues & threats going on in Spring 2021.
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Shapiro: was something odd from Mesa in 2021?
R: It was a request from Dominion, Mesa asked them. Unusual because it's a security issue, not to test if it works. When vendors submit documentation they're considered trade secrets (non-public info).
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R: It was a request from Dominion, Mesa asked them. Unusual because it's a security issue, not to test if it works. When vendors submit documentation they're considered trade secrets (non-public info).
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Romero: Logic & accuracy testing open to public & risk-limiting audits by bipartisan judges.
S: When you heard Mesa wanted public viewing of the "trusted build", what did you say?
R: We couldn't accommodate. 4/16, sent email to explain & alternatives (in yesterday's transcript).
S: When you heard Mesa wanted public viewing of the "trusted build", what did you say?
R: We couldn't accommodate. 4/16, sent email to explain & alternatives (in yesterday's transcript).
Shapiro: After you told Mesa & other counties alternatives on "trusted build" (watch video), what next?
Romero: Began scheduling by geography for the 62 Dominion counties. Peters a recipient of Romero's 4/30 email: COVID interaction policies for "trusted build" prep & arrival.
Romero: Began scheduling by geography for the 62 Dominion counties. Peters a recipient of Romero's 4/30 email: COVID interaction policies for "trusted build" prep & arrival.
Authorized to attend 5/25-26 Mesa County "Trusted Build" (background checked):
1 from SoS office
2 Dominion staff
County Clerk & Recorder
2 County staff
Romero put Peters on notice if non-auth present, they'd move on next county (& later at Mesa's expense).
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1 from SoS office
2 Dominion staff
County Clerk & Recorder
2 County staff
Romero put Peters on notice if non-auth present, they'd move on next county (& later at Mesa's expense).
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Dominion provided instructions on how to back up data & hard-copy ballots. Hard copy retained 25 months. On 5/18, Jessi Romero received email from Sandy Brown: Mesa County said attendees would be herself, Tina Peters & Gerald Wood. Jessi found it odd about Wood.
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Jessi Romero: It's not normal to have someone with no election experience involved in the process.
Shapiro: Do you trust/rely on counties for honesty?
Romero: Yes. And if Danny from SoS had a problem, get in the car & move on.
S: Any other counties?
R: No.
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Shapiro: Do you trust/rely on counties for honesty?
Romero: Yes. And if Danny from SoS had a problem, get in the car & move on.
S: Any other counties?
R: No.
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Jessi Romero: At a Rules Hearing, a woman said look at the Gateway Pundit -- Jessi did and there was a "bombastic" headline with an image of the EMS server, BIOS settings, an internal doc with Dominion (security shots), & screenshot with an image of a spreadsheet I recognized.
At the "trusted build", we set the BIOS password (underlying), which the Counties do NOT know. Only 4 people know. Was vaguely aware of Gateway Pundit, there was a lot of this kind of info out there.
Danni Romero: When I saw the photo in the Gateway Pundit with passwords, I "nearly got immediately sick to my stomach" because I recognized it was our "trusted build". Unique to the county & the version (year) of the "trusted build".
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Shapiro: How did you know it was Mesa County's 2021 build?
Romero: When I digested what happened, within 10 minutes we confirmed it.
S: What next?
R: I set off the alarms! Notified mgmt & said we have a serious problem. Immediate meetings with state officials.
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Romero: When I digested what happened, within 10 minutes we confirmed it.
S: What next?
R: I set off the alarms! Notified mgmt & said we have a serious problem. Immediate meetings with state officials.
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S: Did you learn if Gerald Wood was a bona-fide election employee?
R: Yes, he was NOT.
S: If you had known he was not, the real Gerald Wood, what would you have done?
R: I would have told Danny to leave and contact the legal team.
S: So no Mesa "trusted build"?
R: No.
R: Yes, he was NOT.
S: If you had known he was not, the real Gerald Wood, what would you have done?
R: I would have told Danny to leave and contact the legal team.
S: So no Mesa "trusted build"?
R: No.
Shapiro: If you knew it was someone named Conan Hayes, what would you have done?
Romero: The same thing.
5:10pm EDT: Prosecution finished with Jessi Romero, cross ex next. Judge needs to speak with a juror.
#TinaPetersTrial Mid-afternoon Break! ๐ฅจ
Romero: The same thing.
5:10pm EDT: Prosecution finished with Jessi Romero, cross ex next. Judge needs to speak with a juror.
#TinaPetersTrial Mid-afternoon Break! ๐ฅจ
For long exchanges I think are important, I keep typing and at the end, break them into tweet-sized posts. Hence flurry of posts, I'm trying to give you the most accurate and you-are-there experience I can. ๐ Learned midway through his name is spelled JESSI (sorry buddy!)
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Thanks to Chris Dehghanpoor @chrisd9r, here's Mike Lindell Cyber Symposium. While her office was being searched, Tina was flitting off to South Dakota for this circus. Relevant part with #TinaPeters begins about 1hr07m in:
#TinaPetersTrialfacebook.com/watch/live/?reโฆ
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More about Dan Hartman, Tina Peters & Stefanie Lambert's lawyer:
https://x.com/MarkBrewerDems/status/1705458884133920986
More about Tina Peters and Stefanie Lambert's attorney Dan Hartman:
https://x.com/jonathanoosting/status/1705332258595389510
โ๏ธ 5:30pm EDT: And we're back at #TinaPetersTrial!
Jury enters, Tina Peters' attorney will resume with cross ex of Jessi Romero, Election Manager in Colorado.
Hartman: I want to talk about Code Monkey's video.
Prosecutor: I've never seen that thumb drive.
Judge: Foundation???
Jury enters, Tina Peters' attorney will resume with cross ex of Jessi Romero, Election Manager in Colorado.
Hartman: I want to talk about Code Monkey's video.
Prosecutor: I've never seen that thumb drive.
Judge: Foundation???
#tinaPetersTrial: Dan Hartman drops it & moves on. Something shows on the screen, hasn't been admitted, he says, "turn that off". ๐
He shows Jessi Romero email about the "trusted build".
H: Did you send this kind of email in 2019?
Objection! Judge: Relevance?
Bench conf. ๐
He shows Jessi Romero email about the "trusted build".
H: Did you send this kind of email in 2019?
Objection! Judge: Relevance?
Bench conf. ๐
Long bench conference. Objection SUSTAINED.
Hartman: Doesn't Rule 20 (county security procedures/ election authority) govern accounting?
Danni Romero: I don't believe that's true.
H: Isn't that what this case is about?
Objection. Reask.
Hartman: Doesn't Rule 20 (county security procedures/ election authority) govern accounting?
Danni Romero: I don't believe that's true.
H: Isn't that what this case is about?
Objection. Reask.
H: It's about alleged breach of county's voting system. Does it belong to Mesa County? The SoS isn't in that contract? So SoS certifies & says use this.
R: Yes.
H: When it gets to the certification, you're responsible?
R: Correct
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R: Yes.
H: When it gets to the certification, you're responsible?
R: Correct
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H: Does Colorado Law 1-5-607 prohibit Clerk from operating the system? Does she have access?
R: We have 100s of rules, we review when we need them.
H: Dominion worked with counties on the schedule..
Objection! Judge to Hartman: What you think is not the issue. ๐ฅ
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R: We have 100s of rules, we review when we need them.
H: Dominion worked with counties on the schedule..
Objection! Judge to Hartman: What you think is not the issue. ๐ฅ
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H: Who gets to attend the risk-limiting audits?
R: Counties
H: Familiar with Rule 10.5 deals with facilities access?
R: Go on...
H: Who has access authority during election processes?
R: Counties but sometimes rules to comply with
H: But ultimately counties
R: Yes
R: Counties
H: Familiar with Rule 10.5 deals with facilities access?
R: Go on...
H: Who has access authority during election processes?
R: Counties but sometimes rules to comply with
H: But ultimately counties
R: Yes
H: The email you sent 4/30, what were the attachments?
R: Background checks & COVID policy
H: COVID policy didn't go through public comment, right? Criminal offense to violate policy?
R: (Not his area) Policy was approved by administration.
Objection, these aren't in his area.
R: Background checks & COVID policy
H: COVID policy didn't go through public comment, right? Criminal offense to violate policy?
R: (Not his area) Policy was approved by administration.
Objection, these aren't in his area.
H: Dominion has a continuing relationship with counties, service and support. Vendor to the county.
R: Yes.
H: About "trade secrets" of Dominion, would violating that...
Objection. Foundation. Sustained.
H: You issued a "decree" because of COVID, threats, etc.
R: Yes.
R: Yes.
H: About "trade secrets" of Dominion, would violating that...
Objection. Foundation. Sustained.
H: You issued a "decree" because of COVID, threats, etc.
R: Yes.
Tina Peters lawyer Dan Hartman: After the 2020 election, were people "freaked out"?
Jessi Romero: Broad statement
H: (Forgets Jessi's name!) Did Jessi...
R: I'm Jessi.
H: Oh, did Danny...
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Jessi Romero: Broad statement
H: (Forgets Jessi's name!) Did Jessi...
R: I'm Jessi.
H: Oh, did Danny...
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(Hartman is trying to establish county authority, I get it, but in my opinion he's asking the wrong witness the wrong questions.)
H: In the 25 mo window of record retention...
Objection. Sustained. H: May I make a record? Judge: Not now. Bench conference.
This is getting painful.
H: In the 25 mo window of record retention...
Objection. Sustained. H: May I make a record? Judge: Not now. Bench conference.
This is getting painful.
After a long bench conference, Objection SUSTAINED.
Hartman: If you heard Conan Hayes was attending, no upgrade?
R: No, not in Mesa County Election Dept
H: Why?
R: Guidance we were following.
H: Did you provide background checks for Dominion employees?
R: Letters from Dominion.
Hartman: If you heard Conan Hayes was attending, no upgrade?
R: No, not in Mesa County Election Dept
H: Why?
R: Guidance we were following.
H: Did you provide background checks for Dominion employees?
R: Letters from Dominion.
H: Cameras were always on? How many elections?
R: 3 + municipal elections. We don't have control over municipal elections.
H: You suggested an alternative. It's the clerk's authority to reject the alternative and have the public present, right?
R: What do you mean?
R: 3 + municipal elections. We don't have control over municipal elections.
H: You suggested an alternative. It's the clerk's authority to reject the alternative and have the public present, right?
R: What do you mean?
H: What authority to exclude people?
R: SoS & the COVID policy.
H: If "trusted build" didn't happen, machines would still be certified, true?
R: True.
H: Did your guidance allow staff (not Clerk) to put in a clean removable drive?
R: Instructions are simple in Dominion's manual.
R: SoS & the COVID policy.
H: If "trusted build" didn't happen, machines would still be certified, true?
R: True.
H: Did your guidance allow staff (not Clerk) to put in a clean removable drive?
R: Instructions are simple in Dominion's manual.
H: Do you know audit logs?...
Objection. Sustained for relevance & 403.
H: What about the "Golden Image"?
R: It's the certified software for each system. Created by SoS & Dominion & highly secured.
Objection. Sustained for relevance & 403.
H: What about the "Golden Image"?
R: It's the certified software for each system. Created by SoS & Dominion & highly secured.
H: Do you know the last step is to reset the passwords? So a video showing the passwords at beginning wouldn't be the same?
R: False. That's a different password. SoS retains the BIOS password. County retains other passwords.
R: False. That's a different password. SoS retains the BIOS password. County retains other passwords.
H: So the system allows anyone with a password to insert in a removable device?
R: The BIOS has the capability...
Shapiro has had enough. Objection. Sustained.
โก๏ธ Judge: EASY, Mr. Hartman, with the comments under your breath. Counsel, approach.
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R: The BIOS has the capability...
Shapiro has had enough. Objection. Sustained.
โก๏ธ Judge: EASY, Mr. Hartman, with the comments under your breath. Counsel, approach.
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#TinaPetersTrial: Dan Hartman, Tina Peters' lawyer, is taking a peculiar route. Long bench conferences happen because he chases irrelevant to the charges, beyond the scope, or strange issues. Like Kari Lake & others, their legal teams arenโt helping much.
They just can't help being election-denier conspiracists. Hartman wants to know about WIRELESS!
Hartman: If the BIOS password is the SoS, they can set the component?
Romero: What?
H: The wireless capability.
R: Um, yes. It's off.
Does Hartman have a SMOKING GUN coming?
Hartman: If the BIOS password is the SoS, they can set the component?
Romero: What?
H: The wireless capability.
R: Um, yes. It's off.
Does Hartman have a SMOKING GUN coming?
H: CRS Title 1 Article 5 deals with your ability to issue orders. Are you aware besides authority that allows decertify, any other?
R: I'm sorry sir, it's not my area.
R: I'm sorry sir, it's not my area.
H: When did the SoS begin keeping county BIOS passwords?
R: 2019. Back to 2017, security step, 1st step was counties to maintain but they lost them, so then we retained them. We maintain the BIOS, counties have the software password, so they balance.
R: 2019. Back to 2017, security step, 1st step was counties to maintain but they lost them, so then we retained them. We maintain the BIOS, counties have the software password, so they balance.
H: When I asked about a rule, you said there is now. But that doesn't control at time of this trial.
R: Yes.
Cross ex done. Redirect.
Shapiro: How many pages of rules are there?
R: Hundreds.
S: If you have to refresh on rules?
R: We have a member of the team.
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R: Yes.
Cross ex done. Redirect.
Shapiro: How many pages of rules are there?
R: Hundreds.
S: If you have to refresh on rules?
R: We have a member of the team.
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S: Do you know Rule 20.5.3?
Approaches Jessi
S: What areas require background checks?
R: Sensitive like tabulator.
S: Any exceptions for the public?
R: No.
Defense objects to next Q. Bench conf.
Poor Jessi!
Somebody in Mesa County buy him a beer after this! ๐ป
#TinaPetersTrial
Approaches Jessi
S: What areas require background checks?
R: Sensitive like tabulator.
S: Any exceptions for the public?
R: No.
Defense objects to next Q. Bench conf.
Poor Jessi!
Somebody in Mesa County buy him a beer after this! ๐ป
#TinaPetersTrial
Jessi Romero, we feel your pain, bro! ๐
Judge Barett said it'll end for the day around 5pm local (7pm EDT) so you're (and we're) in the home stretch! ๐ช
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Judge Barett said it'll end for the day around 5pm local (7pm EDT) so you're (and we're) in the home stretch! ๐ช
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After bench conference, Shapiro is done. Jury had a few questions about ID and policy. Masks were required in 2020 and the policy was in place for COVID. Since then, security has been increased. Not proof of being a county employee is required along with background checks & AUPs.
Jessi Romero excused & bolted! Judge Matthew Barrett thanked the jury, Day 2 of Colorado v. Tina Marie Peters done!
Next: 8/2 9am local (11am EDT)!
#LukeCrew -- As hard as Dan Hartman tried, he came up short. No SMOKING GUNS. So here are some. Thanks for being with me! ๐
Next: 8/2 9am local (11am EDT)!
#LukeCrew -- As hard as Dan Hartman tried, he came up short. No SMOKING GUNS. So here are some. Thanks for being with me! ๐
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