@MrMatthewTodd Whilst its true that extreme heat, will impact the old and vulnerable most. It is a profound error to just think this all that will happen. As I keep trying to point out, our civilization could collapse in the near future, because of climate related food shortages.
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@MrMatthewTodd It would only take food short supply, not such abundance as usual, not absolute shortages, in one year, due to the climate ducks, lining up, to in a free market system, to create food hyperinflation, and societal chaos and collapse, which could bring the whole system down.
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@MrMatthewTodd If that happened, no one would be safe. Billionaires would lose everything, and the collapse of the system would result in possibly billions starving to death over the next few years. The trope that some people would be safe, the rich, the healthy, is absolutely false.
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@ClimateDad77 I keep trying to explain, seeing this in terms of slow decline in food yield/production, is a profound thinking error. Perhaps I better understand this faulty thinking, as an ecologist. What matters most, is food yield in a given year, not the average.
@ClimateDad77 What population ecology teaches us, is that the population of a species, does not depend on food availability averages over a long period of time, but specific shortfalls of food in a given year. This can totally collapse the population, even if the average is fine after.
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@ClimateDad77 It's the same with our civilization. It doesn't matter what the theoretical food yield is, until the end of the century, if food shortages in a given year, result in societal chaos, and the collapse of our civilization. We live in a free market economy.
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@JohnHann0404 Your reasoning, is completely wrong. It is not that people have suddenly developed these conditions. You don't suddenly, develop ASD or ADHD. It is that it is being recognized more now. Lots of those people have been struggling all their lives.
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@JohnHann0404 Let me give an example. I have severe complex PTSD. It didn't suddenly happen, although it got much worse after the death of my sister 16 years ago (we had a shared history of abuse). I objectively had PTSD when I was a child, in the 1960s.
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@JohnHann0404 However, the condition of PTSD wasn't officially recognized until 1984, then only for military veterans. They took their time, given shellshock was well known in WWI, it was just not medically described. In the UK, complex PTSD is not yet officially recognized by the NHS.
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Ideally, we could do with a name for this campaign, a simple strategy. It's all beyond me, because I don't have a high profile, I do not have any celebrity friends, but I would call on people who have to come together and work this out. @brianeno @AURORAmusic @ExtinctionR
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It is necessary to follow clear effective problem solving steps to succeed. First recognize the problem, and try to get a consensus on it. Second, do not broaden it out too much. Just focus on getting the core problem recognized.
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My reason for posting this, is because all concerned people, need to recognize the situation, accept it, and work together to come up with solutions and strategies of how to deal with this reality.
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Throughout the existence of modern environmentalism, and the pursuit of social justice, because I strongly believe they are inextricably linked, the primary assumption has been that we should pursue the necessary change, through our political systems.
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Indeed, as recently as with the 2015 our political leaders agreed to try to keep warming to less than 1.5C. There has been no announcement, that this aspiration had been abandoned, although it is now impossible, as no major government made any effort.
@ClimateBen Ben, I am puzzled by this logic and thinking. I have been tirelessly trying to point out, for well over 3 decades. that we were heading towards almost certain catastrophe, without a major change in direction.
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@ClimateBen What is happening now, has always been in line with worst case scenarios/error bars, but establishment science, as regards climate change has always been on the unrealistic/optimistic side.
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@ClimateBen As I was trying to explain on the Guardian comments sections 15 years ago, a profound error had been made, in only looking at the big physical parameters, like sea level rise etc, and it was the early leading edge of climate impacts, via ecological change, that would get us.
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I just want to make it clear that I am not just talking about the climate crisis, the ecological crisis, but social justice, because as the incomparable @GretaThunberg they are all linked in caring for humanity and social justice.
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It is very clear, that our so called leaders, are pursuing an agenda, which is nothing to do with most of humanity and ordinary people, but the agenda of the richest and most powerful people in the world, against the interests of the vast majority of humanity.
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I want to illustrate this with a simple example from the UK, which is probably reflective of government policy around the worlds. From the 1980s on, the utilities in the UK were privatised. It was disastrous, with levels of service falling, and prices rocketing.
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