Thread by @SteB777

The most important thing to understand about the climate and ecological emergency, is that profound and radical change, is coming whether you like it or not. That change might come far sooner, than most people, almost everyone, envisages.
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"There are now no non-radical futures. The choice is between immediate and profound social change or waiting a little longer for chaotic and violent social change. In 2023 the window for this choice is rapidly closing." @KevinClimate

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"And change is coming, whether you like it or not." - @GretaThunberg

I'm now absolutely certain, that hardly anyone understands what this means.

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I cannot speak for either Greta or Professor Kevin Anderson, but as I have been saying this for far longer than they have (like before Greta was born), I think I'm well qualified to say what this means.
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The biggest failure in climate communication, is to focus on big physical impacts at the end of the century, X amount sea level rises, areas of the Earth becoming uninhabitable through extreme heat etc. As if we're going to suddenly find ourselves 75 years in the future.
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As if zum, we're suddenly going to have found ourselves 75 years in the future, with roughly the same sort of civilization, but all these big changes to the Earth's system, that we're going to have to deal with.

Really????????
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I have to pinch myself about the sheer stupidity and unreality of all this.

What do they think will have happened in the intervening 75 years as the temperatures rises, the sea levels rise, ocean acidity gets worse, and our agriculture is devastated?
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I have never seen any realistic evaluation about the impacts on our civilization, economies and societies over the next couple of decades starting now. The chances of our civilization, lasting to experience these massive changes, is just about zero.
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I've always been open-minded, that this is understood somewhere, just that I have never found it. Everything I've read, the presentations I've seen, at some time I have to stop listening, because the person delivering the summary has obviously not thought about so much.
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I do appreciate the difficulty in giving some coherent joined up account, because I've been trying to do it myself for half a century. But I've never tried to sell a book, stuffed with this empty waffle.
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I really, am still struggling to see, how we will get through the next 5-15 years, let alone 75 years into the future. It is not just climate change, and biodiversity itself, but the whole dynamic that will change.
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Climate change denial, and I am not just talking about the Trumpian idiocy type stuff, but centrist politicians who claim to accept the science, the techno-optimist scientists. All this fantasy thinking, is going to get increasingly difficult to maintain.
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Reality, is what it is, now what people imagine it is. What will happen, is what will happen. People's ideas about it are pretty much irrelevant. Really, you don't have to take my word for it, because unless you're very old, you'll get to see it yourself.
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Of course, nothing is fixed. I can guarantee, the way the public see this crisis, is going to undergo massive perception change, and the deniers of reality are going to be left with zero credibility, as their fantasy views of reality, collide with actual reality.
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THE only question, is will this massive public perception change, happen too late, when the system goes into free fall, or will we be able to affect some change to our system, before it's too late.
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All we can be certain of is that profound radical change is coming, whether we like it or not. Exactly, what rationale lies behind trying to maintain business as usual BaU, when it is physically impossible, I have no idea.
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There's a lot of debate about how much politicians and oligarchs understand this, and whether there's method in their madness. IMHO, this is a total waste of time, because whether they're trying to hoodwink themselves or the public, doesn't matter. They're spouting nonsense.
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Yes, I can foresee scenarios, but they are not fixed, and which one happens, depends on so much. However, what is absolutely certain, is that there will be radical change, and most of what you take for granted now, will no longer be here.
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In other words, it is really quite irrational, and quite frankly insane that major action is not being taken, to change direction, from the globally suicidal course, humanity is currently on. Don't say no one told you, when the shit hits the fan!
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