So it can't be claimed that I have misquoted what @jasonhickel said during that interview with @AaronBastani, I took the trouble to carefully transcribe what he said from the YouTube closed captions.
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"You have some climate scientists like Kevin Anderson, one of the UK's most prominent climate scientists uh who routinely says 3 degrees is not compatible with organized human civilization as we know it. Now, that doesn't mean that there is going to be mass deaths. ..."
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"... I think that's an unlikely scenario, but um it does mean that a lot of the things we take for granted about the organization of society, would not be feasible in such a world. So it's kind of a different sort of planet."
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Therefore, I am not misrepresenting what @jasonhickel said. I am accurately quoting what he actually said. That even if we have 3C of warming, and civilization collapses, there won't be mass deaths, just things will be a bit different.
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For a start, he is not quoting @KevinClimate on that. Where does @jasonhickel get the idea, that if at 3C of warming, and the collapse of our civilization, that there would be no mass deaths?
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As I said in my thread, those that dismiss the likelihood of mass starvation, if our civilization collapsed due to extreme climate change, never support their assertions, which seem to be no more than wishful thinking.
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What do people like @jasonhickel think, 8 billion people would be eating, if our civilization collapsed, along with the complex supply chains, that keeps our agriculture going, so it can feed 8 billion people? It's bizarre.
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He seems to have zero understanding of the logistics necessary to feed 8 billion people, and that if it falters, even if only briefly, people will start starving. It would not be like other famines, where food could be supplied from outside, as there would be no outside.
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How would the Global North escape that because of their wealth. They would have no wealth, because the financial system would have collapsed. In fact, the Global North is more reliant on outside supply, and paper wealth, than anyone else.
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All I am asking @jasonhickel to do, is to re-think and reconsider, what he said, and to look carefully, at the basis of his assumptions, to see how well founded they are. He would soon find, there is no solid foundation for his conclusions.
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