Thread by @OwenMacdonald8

Seen here, a fascist utilizing his Nazi filled, far right audience to harass a trans woman off their platform.

Deceitful, anti-trans scum line right wing circles, using any opportunity to attack LGBTQ people. This course of events was planned; right wing circles are garbage.

Stop giving them the benefit of the doubt - far right internet groups are calculated, malicious movements that utilize societal "norms" over politeness and debate to perpetrate violence against the marginalized.

These people are an active threat to the safety of others.

"but I'm right wing and I never do anything" you say as you share internet space with fascists, opening numerous marginalized people up to the far right.

"it was just a compliment" you say, proudly voting against trans rights and spewing transphobic anti-science

Given the intrinsically harmful nature of right wing ideas, marginalized people are more than justified in shutting them out of their life. As capitalism decays, the path to fascism becomes increasingly shorter - it is literally a safety measure for many to cut these people out.

We see passive and active fascism in all right wing people - from those too ignorant and callous to recognize how far right their circles and views are being dragged, to devious actors playing a long game to drag their enemies through the mire.

Both represent a clear danger.

In the same way that a person unwilling to get vaccinations risks the health of all around them, the right wing person failing to heed countless warnings (pleas, frankly) from the marginalized to realign their views + circles holds substantial blame for the problems seen.

Assume the person is passive; how much would you wager the conservative that gave the "compliment" derided being blocked with other right wing folk? Amongst them far right people eager to sink their teeth into a new target for hatred?

Everything and anything is a weapon today.

It is why utmost sternness and resolve against right wing views must be held. Allowing ourselves to make constant concessions for people causing life threatening damage to the marginalized is unacceptable. Social change has never come through appeasing those in the wrong.

We should be capable of recognizing that, while conversations can be useful, allowing hateful, parasitic people in our circles leads to infection. The demand for unfettered entry to those with all political views lets insidious actors abuse those whom enter their crosshairs.

"won't this upset/anger right wing ppl that aren't fascists?"

Yes, and frankly that shouldn't concern you - does the momentary, unjustified discomfort a right wing person feels outweigh the marginalized people literally killed by fascist action spreading through their circles?

The idea that there's a technique to smile away right/far right ideas rarely holds fruition, regardless of how pleasant it seems. Sometimes the inverse occurs, where the fascist deceives you with their amiability and drags the conversation right through excuses and lies.

Seeing right wing people change through your firm, unapologetic words is unlikely, but far more probable than routinely appeasing the abusive behaviour of right wing folks harming the livelihoods of others. You don't get positive change by playing the "civility" game.

There is no skeleton key for fixing a person, and sometimes it's best to move on - often it's necessary, because as previously mentioned exposing those around you (especially marginalized folk) to those who share space with the far right is dangerous.

But you must stay firm.

Right wing people hold deeply harmful ideas and while conversation + niceties can still be had, they still contribute to serious societal problems. They are in the wrong, and if you aren't letting them know that they aren't going to seriously change their ideas.

The conversation should be uncomfortable for them because their political identity is being challenged. They aren't going to change if they aren't given reason to, which isn't achieved if the person arguing with them doesn't make it clear that their views are unacceptable.

And yeah, this might strain some friendships and make for uneasy conversations. But unless you are extremely lucky, the person must be given some pressure to begin to question their right wing views.

Their comfort in conservative views isn't of concern and must be smashed.

Some people might think I sound quite harsh here, but it is simply practical analysis - if logical debate was followed 100% of the time, it would a conversation or two for everyone to be left wing.

Right wing ideas don't work like that - they aren't born of rationality.

Discomfort, disassociation, disparagement... they might lead to hostility from the right wing person, but with resolve they can sew the first seeds of doubt.

Even the hardest earth can be broken, but no farmer ever grew their crops through smiling at the dirt.

This has become a colossal thread, so to link back to the start consider Brie - a woman driven off a supposedly anti-harassment website by fascists thinly veiling their anti-trans sentiment, enabled by conservatives not being able to speak to one trans person.

Left wing marginalized folks actively at risk from the people you are trying to convince to be better have a lot more to lose here! It should be obvious that the wellbeing of someone targeted by fascists matters much more than the ego of right wing people you *might* sway left.

So be wary of endless calls for conversation and "civility". Never feel you have to debate - you come first! Be conscious of the people you're with when sharing circles with right wing people. Don't be afraid to make conservatives sweat, because their views more than warrant it.

Remember - no injustice has ever been overcome by moving right and keeping things in their ballpark!

If we're gonna change minds and end fascist harassment, we aren't doing it unless we're firmly repelling their tactics and views. Stand strong and support other lefties!

Fin :)