Do you know
👉🏻How many widows your own unit has?
👉🏻Where do they live?
👉🏻How many children they have?
👉🏻How much pension each widow gets?
👉🏻Where your unit widows live?
👉🏻AWES, CSD, ECHS problems of widows?
Answer YES to all and we continue debate.
2. Few more questions:
👉🏻When Regimented part of Armed Forces like Infantry, Artillery & Armoured units do not have details of their own unit widows, what happens to ‘non-regimented’ sections of Armed Forces?
👉🏻Who, other than Records maintains details of widows of Armed Forces?
3.
Another set of questions:
👉🏻Should Armed Forces really be bothered about IndianArmedForcesWidows?
👉🏻If answer is NO, then why bother the so called ‘Veer Naari’?
👉🏻An automobile accident in operational area and a peace station is same. Should widows be treated differently?
4.
Next set of Q’s
👉🏻If the record of veterans and widows, both is mandatorily held by respective Records, and that 100% personal data including wife, children, names, DOB, village, bank single account, joint account and practically 100% data is held by them, IS IT DIGITISED?
6.
👉🏻CDA(Pensions) has complete record of which main is PPO. They have data of bank accounts of veterans and widows. IS IT DIGITISED?
👉🏻Is there a third organisation other than respective Record Offices and CDA(Pensions) that holds records of Veterans and Widows?
7.
👉🏻 Yes to 👆🏻, the third place where Veteran and Widow bank and pension records are held real time are Centralised Pension Processing Centres of all banks that disburse pensions.
👉🏻THE NEAREST entity to a Veteran and a Widow is the Branch where their pension is disbursed.
8
👉🏻Between pension ac holding branch, the CPPC, Records and CDA(Pensions) 100% data is available.
👉🏻Are they integrated with a common platform?
👉🏻Are 33 lac veterans and widows a BIG number? Credit Cards of a bank are 5-7 crores.
👉🏻Why can’t the entire data be under one website?
9
👉🏻DO NOT TAKE MY TWEETS AS CRIBBING. I AM NOT A CRY BABY. YOU ALL NEED TO KNOW HOW ANCIENT WE ARE.
MUST KNOW HOW APATHY KILLS DESIRE TO LIVE.

I WILL ULTIMATELY GIVE SOLUTION.
10.
What you read so far was data available with Govt. Now let’s shift our focus to the other end of spectrum. The Veterans and Widows. JUST 33-35 lacs. A veteran and widow MUST
👉🏻Have a CSD Card to be ‘renewed’ each year, and upgraded till enough money is made by vendors CONTD.
11 CONTD...
👉🏻 AWES Schemes. 😳?? What’s that say Veterans and Widows. 11 CONTD...
👉🏻Have an ECHS Card to be changed at whims and fancy of MoD.
👉🏻Go to Bank each year for Life Cert.
👉🏻 Therefore Life Cert = CSD Card.
👉🏻 AWES Schemes. 😳?? What’s that? Say Veterans and Widows.
12 CONTD
👉🏻ECHS maintains own data. My son born in 1995 existed on ECHS Card till 2018, now my Record Office says he is not there😂😂😂!
👉🏻CSD Org maintains own data. It’s not centralised.
👉🏻Station HQs are another mystery.
👉🏻All these are Independent Kingdoms.
13 CONTD
👉🏻Over 760 District Soldier Boards in India besides their controlling organisations exist.
👉🏻Work under State AND Centre.
👉🏻Have no access to any centralised data of Veterans and Widows.
👉🏻Rajya Sainik Boards in each state exist to serve Veterans & Widows with no data!!!
14 CONTD....
👉🏻Add the presence of Army, Navy and Airforce units across country. Veterans & Widows live across country. NO ONE SEES EYE TO EYE.
👉🏻Brings me to ‘identity’ Card for Veterans & Widows. All cards are ‘Dumb’ cards. Piece of plastic or paper and rightfully questionable.
15 CONTD
👉🏻No unique IDs are allotted, your service number carries to grave.
👉🏻Army, Navy and IAF Veterans & Widows thus are different.
👉🏻MoD has DESW, Dept of Ex Servicemen Welfare.
👉🏻Army, Navy and IAF have separate Directorates for Veterans & Widow Welfare.
16 CONTD
👉🏻Now Army has opened a Veteran Cell in Sub Area HQs.
👉🏻Organisations, Organisations ENDLESS Organisations.
👉🏻Bring in AWWA & parallel org of Navy & IAF created with a vision that’s gone blind.
👉🏻These orgs are the biggest pain & suck out resources & PRIDE.
17 CONTD..
👉🏻Careers are made & destroyed if one gets in wrong side of lady.
👉🏻Glamour meets ‘subjects’ i.e. serving personnel’s wives. It’s the biggest nonsense Forces have.
👉🏻They do NOTHING for widows. President AWWA wouldn’t know of a widow living across road in civil area.
18 CONTD...
👉🏻Cdrs over two decades have found unique way to look after their better half’s by making subordinates bend, buckle and yield to ladies.
👉🏻An org that can be force multiplier for Widows is far removed from reality.
👉🏻Shouldn’t Widow rehabilitation be their FIRST job?
19 CONTD..
👉🏻Tweets 1 to 16 bring out the MESS. Only product is apathy.
👉🏻No one is responsible, no one is accountable.

Sir, What I bring out is stark reality in which we live. We are too myopic to address these issues.
POSITIVE TWEETS START NOW WE CAN CHANGE EVERYTHING.
20 CONTD
👉🏻Must go through previous 19 tweets to understand more than 500 organisations/offices/banks/states etc are involved to take care of just TWO categories- Veterans & Widows.
👉🏻Why blame service HQs? They can do NOTHING.
👉🏻Can Min of Defence do it? NOT AT ALL. See 21 why?
21 CONTD
👉🏻MoD cannot direct banks, control states or get other ministries to follow changes it proposes.
👉🏻It goes higher now. Where is @adgpi ? Nowhere.

👉🏻How can you get the most identifiable lot to be looked after with 1/100th of current Budget and Manpower?
22 CONTD
👉🏻Nothing less than @PMOIndia needs to get involved.
👉🏻33 lac veterans and widows can be reached and their lives impacted only by @PMOIndia
👉🏻Overnight, 33 las veterans and widows become genuine reps of Govt.
👉🏻100% Veterans and Widows will benefit . How? 👇🏻👇🏻
23 CONTD @PMOIndia
👉🏻Those who disagree that PMO does not require to get involved see 👇🏻
👉🏻Record Offices in excess of 100
👉🏻Dedicated organisations of CDA Pensions
👉🏻DESW at MoD with Secretary
👉🏻DGR
👉🏻AGIF + Navy + IAF
👉🏻Benevolent Funds
👉🏻Army Navy IAF edn welfare schemes
24 CONTD @PMOIndia list continues
👉🏻CPCC of Pension Disbursing Banks
👉🏻Branches from where Pension is drawn ITS MOST IMP. Nearest to life & place of veteran-widow.
👉🏻CSD Cards & organisations
👉🏻ECHS and whole support set up
👉🏻State Sainik Soldier Boards
👉🏻District Soldier Boards
25 CONTD @PMOIndia and the list continues
👉🏻Add to this Aadhaar Card, Pan Card, Voter Card, Ration Card, KYC of Banks, Life Certificates etc..
👉🏻Add deaths, family pensions, children crossing 25 yr age, etc.
👉🏻Missed out many many orgs
26 CONTD @PMOIndia
👉🏻35 lac Veterans and Widows to be managed. That’s a small number.
👉🏻👉🏻It’s absolutely dynamic and requires the system and establishment to respond real time. Today we are working in Middle Ages!
👆🏻👆🏻Reasons why @adgpi @defenceminister etc. Cannot resolve

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