Oscillating between sessions this morning: now listening to Matteo Mossio and why biological parts are not machines. #ISHPSSB19
Mossio: “a machine is a system that exists because it produces work resulting from the properties of its parts and their interactions.” #ISHPSSB19
Mossio: “machines are purposive systems endowed with internal functional differentiation.” #ISHPSSB19
Mossio uses Kant’s argument to show that organisms have intrinsic purpose and are therefore very much unlike machines. #ISHPSSB19 Image
Mossio interprets Maturana and Varela’s talk about autopoietic *machines* as somewhat frivolous. #ISHPSSB19
Mossio: in most cases, parts of organisms cannot be interpreted as machines either. The conditions of existence of organismic components depend on the activity of the whole in ways machine parts do not. #ISHPSSB19
Mossio: organismic part-whole relationships constantly change over time (ontogenetic differentiation) and depend on the level of organisation. #ISHPSSB19
Mossio: molecular parts are special; they are the best candidates for being interpreted as machine-like components. See recent discussion by Militello & Moreno vs. Nicholson. #ISHPSSB19
Mossio: despite their producing functional work, we should not call molecular parts “machines.” Better use “organisational complexes” or “constraints,” to emphasise organisational differences. #ISHPSSB19

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@balazskegl @drmichaellevin @ThouArtThat I don't know what @drmichaellevin posted above since he blocked me. But just to make sure: we are *not* part of the same family. And the differences between our philosophies are fundamental, not "minuscule." Neither is @drmichaellevin a revolutionary. Indeed, he is a reactionary.
@balazskegl @drmichaellevin @ThouArtThat I explain why @drmichaellevin's "philosophy" is vacuous, just a PR stunt, here: . TAME is an attempt at disguising that his approach is, in fact, utterly reductionist, the culmination of modernist thinking, not the beginning of a metamodern science.johannesjaeger.eu/blog/why-tame-…
@balazskegl @drmichaellevin @ThouArtThat That's one difference between his work and that of @ThouArtThat and I, who are trying to do serious work, based on solid philosophy, which is aimed at *understanding* the world and our place in it, not to control and manipulate (i.e. engineer) everything.
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I traveled to Paris to give my philosophy crash course for scientists () to a wonderful group of @lpiparis_ @FIREPhD students, as I do every year.

Contact me if you want to bring this course to your own institute! It's not only fun, but also useful...johannesjaeger.eu/philosophy.html
... allowing you to become a better researcher through philosophy. The course has an interactive, discussion-based format that is based on an online series of lecture which are freely available: .
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New blog post just dropped!

"Assembly theory is cool... but doesn't quite do what its inventors say it does."



reviewing this recent Nature paper:



TL:DR: potentially interesting model, wrapped in utterly misleading packaging.johannesjaeger.eu/blog/assembly-…
nature.com/articles/s4158…
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The way I was rejected reflects the atrocious attitude of the journal & the whole field of biology towards conceptual work.

It also showcases a lack of intellectual integrity on behalf of the journal editors. 🧵
I submitted the paper knowing full well that @eLife usually restricts its scope to empirical work. The idea was to challenge that restriction, since (in my opinion) biology urgently needs a revival of serious conceptual efforts to prevent the descent of the field into pointless..
@eLife ... construction of large data sets that are increasingly costly to produce but yield diminishing returns in terms of insight and understanding into the workings and organization of living systems. Hence, no surprise when my work was deemed "out of scope." That's fair enough.
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Well, we never really tried. Those few countries that did were isolated (either geographically or surrounded by countries who didn't implement any low-incidence measures). /3
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