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Dec 16, 2019 15 tweets 9 min read
The Tale of the Low Chloride

Once there was 34 year old man who used marijuana and was 🤮nauseous, vomitting, and confused. The resident 📞calls and says, "All the electrolytes are abnormal!! Can you help?"

renalfellow.org/2019/12/16/ske…

@TheSkeletonKG #FOAMED #medtwitter #tweetorial Image
You say of course and see the patient. 🥼🩺His BP was 131/87 mmHg with a HR of 142 bpm. He was fatigued, but AOx3. Moist mucous membranes, normal skin turgor, and no LE edema.

💉Labs are shown and reveal a serum osmolality of 263 with ALL normal labs 3 months prior. Image
Loving Nephrology🤓, you ask, "What about the urine?!"

He is making urine with a urine Cl of < 20.

(💭Learn more about FeK and Urine K/Cr ratio with our previous case! renalfellow.org/2019/11/14/the… @hotsaltrocks ) Image
In this case, which 🩸electrolyte abnormality the most concerning to be life threatening?☠️
I would worry about his hypokalemia!

Look at this #Uwave! #ECGplease Image
Our patient has a 🌟Cl depleted metabolic alkalosis based on labs and results from ⬇️HCl loss from gastric secretions.🤮

For more on the #pathophysiology, read our post! renalfellow.org/2019/12/16/ske…

Figure courtesy of @kidney_boy Image
🧐But notice something missing?

📌There's only 5-10% of K in gastric acid, so why the hypokalemia?

Source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14919895 Image
Potassium is lost through the urine via 3⃣ mechanisms

1⃣Secondary hyperaldosteronism in response to hypovolemia and low distal sensing of UrCl

Source: cjasn.asnjournals.org/content/10/2/3… Image
2⃣Filtered bicarbonate exceeding the reabsorptive capacity of bicarbonate. This leads to increased sodium bicarbonate delivery to the distal tubule.

Source: jasn.asnjournals.org/content/17/9/2… Image
3⃣Hypochloremia opens voltage gated K channels in the collecting duct resulting in K efflux.

Source: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21270092
But hypokalemia can maintain the alkalosis through activation of H/K ATPase and intracellular shifting.

For more alkalosis initiating (ie increase HCO3 concentration) and maintaining (ie poor HCO3 excretion) mechanisms, read the post! @renal_padawan

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With a total of 360 mEq of KCl, our patient's Na and K normalized per our correction goals of Na change of 6-8mEq/L/24 hours.

For more and a discussion of Cl salts and the influence correction of hypokalemia has on hyponatremia, read the post!

renalfellow.org/2019/12/16/ske… Image
For more about the case and a discussion of Cl salts and the influence correction of hypokalemia has on hyponatremia⚖️, read the post!

renalfellow.org/2019/12/16/ske…

ERRATA: GIF updated. Thanks @NephroMD
Key Points
⚡️Where did all the K go? Out the urine!
⚡️Alkalosis worsens hypokalemia, which can perpetuate the alkalosis...and worsen the hypokalemia...
⚡️Cl depletion needs Cl repletion
⚡️Repleting low K can rapidly correct low Na

@TheSkeletonKG @eljosemenap @SaynaNorouzi Image
@NephroMD Thanks, Dr. Rondon.

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⁉️What is the difference between mineral and organic acidosis?
⁉️Why does one cause more hyperkalemia than the other?

Join me on this 🐇🕳️rabbit hole #tweetorial on metabolic acidosis and it's effect on potassium.

📊To start, which type of acidosis causes more hyperkalemia?
Metabolic acidosis is defined as a ⬇️low pH due to a ⬇️decrease in bicarbonate extracellularly

💎Mineral acids (aka inorganic acids) are “synthesized from earth minerals.”

🥬Organic acids are metabolized by the cell and occur naturally.
Both can have a 🩸high anion-gap...just depends on anion accumulated.

💎Mineral acids are often (not always) a hyperchloremic normal anion gap metabolic acidosis

Think of 🥬organic acidosis as high anion gap metabolic acidosis (though not always true)
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🤔🔬Why are kidney stones so interesting?
Because the 🔑tubules > glomeruli

Disagree if you like, but it’s true.

A short thread on some mechanisms associated with calcium stones...

#nephtwitter #FOAMed #MedEd #uronephrology #kidneystone #nephrolith Image
Which is a risk factor for calcium oxalate stones?
Correct!

Risk factors for calcium oxalate stones classically include 📌hypercalciuria and 📌hyperoxaluria along with 💧low urine volume.

#Hypercalciuria can stem from a LOT of different causes and clinical settings. The most common in adults is idiopathic. Image
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Is being pregnant magical🌟?
I’m not so sure, but let’s give OB a Nephrology twist. 🍼🐣

#nephtwitter #obtwitter #endotwitter #reallythekidneysarethecoolest #medtwitter #tweetorial

Why do you gain weight when you are pregnant?
The average woman ⬆️gains a plasma volume of 1250 mL (an increase of 45-55%).

Significant lab values changes include
- Plasma Na ⬇️reduced by ~ 5 mmol/L
- Plasma osmolality ⬇️reduces by ~10 mOsm/kg
- Cr ⬇️decreases by 0.3 mg/dL due to increased GFR among other changes ImageImage
There is an entire milieu of hormone changes during pregnancy🤰. Some are natriuretic and some are anti-natriuretic.

Sources: Comprehensive Clinical Nephrology Chapter 42, pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22879432 ImageImage
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