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@siobhan_huggins @SteakAndIron This would be an interesting experiment (you and I rarely have hypotheses counter to each other!)

So imagining a crossover where randomize a group of people who both like steaks and keto cookies...
@siobhan_huggins @SteakAndIron Perhaps 1/2 their diet is normal and nutrient dense. But the other half is either steak only (one phase) or keto cookie only (the other phase) ad libitum. (The cookies are roughly matched to the F/P/C macros of the steak)

Would you predict consumption would be nearly the same?
@siobhan_huggins @SteakAndIron (The crossover would allow the same people to switch the the other phase and vise versa, ofc. I love crossovers!)
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@i_like_stuf @Stanford Well, there's looking at it in absolute values vs relative values (to total LDLp)

It's quite common for hyper-responders to have 30% or less of total LDLp as smLDLp, and indeed both will track with the Inversion Pattern, suggesting metabolic influence...
@i_like_stuf @Stanford ... The problem in looking at small LDL particles is that you don't know the composition of the cargo which I believe is very relevant in the reason for its residence and affinity of uptake.

For example, those with severe T2D can have very TG-rich smLDLp...
@i_like_stuf @Stanford ... Yet LMHRs I'd speculate to have TG-poor, C-rich smLDLp by comparison. This makes physiological since given per-particle depletion of TG depending on demand.

I know some LMHR athletes that have higher % smLDLp following a very intense competition or ultramarathon...
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@richcollins @KetoCarnivore @AndreOH @siobhan_huggins @masterketokelly @AncestorStoic @PeruKeto @tednaiman @raphaels7 @zoeharcombe @FatEmperor @mackinprof @LogicalLynx @BenBikmanPhD Okay -- a few things...

My understanding on the "fire diet" is that it seeks to induce satiety particularly with use of steric acid... were you practicing this protocol just as he described?
@richcollins @KetoCarnivore @AndreOH @siobhan_huggins @masterketokelly @AncestorStoic @PeruKeto @tednaiman @raphaels7 @zoeharcombe @FatEmperor @mackinprof @LogicalLynx @BenBikmanPhD ... Second, I myself did a very controlled addition of sugar in the form of dextrose that I think you should consider reading into -- particularly regarding my CGM readings throughout. Again, this was added sugar, not swapped.

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@zbitter @ginarau @tednaiman So here's my .02 having run both pre-keto and since...

1) I had to straight up relearn to run in those first couple miles because I didn't have that turbo boost I'm used to with (what I'm assuming to be) glycogen stores. And it seemed like I had no energy when I clearly did...
@zbitter @ginarau @tednaiman ... It was like feeling I was out of gas, yet I had no physiological symptoms of being out of gas save what I was feeling somewhere in my brain. But after a while I overcame expectation and got a new groove. Which is cool because when running on fat it's much smoother end to end
@zbitter @ginarau @tednaiman 2) Electrolytes! -- and in particular, lots and lots of salt.

Just make sure you have plenty to help rule out that is the issue. I kept assuming it wasn't for the longest time and now I always start there. It's unintuitive, but more frequent than expected
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