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Sep 17, 2020 6 tweets 4 min read Read on X
Artificial neural networks can make impressively accurate predictions, but we must look at these models skeptically especially in medicine

This #PrePrint finds many #AI systems designed to recognize #COVID19 on CXRs are finding shortcuts not signal.bit.ly/3c72lUo
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The authors found that these apparently impressive ANNs were poorly generalizable (i.e., the performance was much worse on a new validation set compared to the training set).

Compare the red vs. green ROC curves. The performance drops from an AUC of 0.99 to 0.7! Yikes!
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There’s a reason for this: They used one dataset for all their positive images and a separate dataset for all their negative images.

This is risky for confounding because the model could pick up on any number of differences in CXRs that aren’t clinically meaningful.
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Turns out the neural networks weren't actually looking at the chest in the CXR; they were ‘cheating’ by looking at laterality markers and other parts of the images that were different between the two datasets.

Look at the salience maps (pixels the model deems most important):
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The AI ‘learned’ that specific laterality markers used in one hospital go with the COVID19+ cases & a different marker used in a different hospital go with the COVID19- cases

This marker cheating phenomenon was also described in PNA diagnosis in 2018
arxiv.org/abs/1807.00431
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3 things we do:
🤔be skeptical: ROC of 0.99 for detecting COVID on CXR is simply too good to be true
💾use better data: use a training set that has both + & - examples, validate with another dataset
👩‍⚕️medical experts should be involved in developing AI models to spot these biases

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Apr 28
This story is absolutely shocking.

Philip Morris International (PMI) spent millions to influence medical education by buying a series of “CMEs” at Medscape!

How else has big tobacco tried to normalize vaping & influence the medical community?

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Recently it was revealed that Philip Morris International (PMI) had SPONSORED CME materials about smokeless tobacco products on Medscape.

I had the opportunity to review these “CME” materials & they are pretty shocking!
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One truly incredible thing about this “CME” was that it has NO DISCLOSURE SLIDE!

The fact that people teaching about vaping don’t disclose their financial ties to the tobacco industry is absolutely bonkers!

Why isn’t there a sunshine act for this?
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Jan 27
Damn. Under Trump the White House Medical Unit was a pill-mill. Thousands of ambien & provigil per month.

Worse, for a clinic that doesn’t typically do procedures w/ moderate sedation they sure are they ordering prodigious quantities of morphine, fentanyl, versed, & ketamine…? Image
Honestly, this reminds me of Norman Ohler’s Blitzed.
The AG report was largely concerned with the enormous cost of prescribing these non-genetic meds.

It’s worth pointing out that dispensing prescription meds without documentation is malpractice. In the case of controlled substances it’s also likely a crime.
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Oct 28, 2023
It’s October - hockey season - so let’s talk about a hockey/pulmonary case:

A previously healthy 17yo presents with dyspnea, frothy sputum, & orthopnea that began after playing hockey.

In the ED he is tachycardic, tachypneic, mildly hypoxic. He has crackles bilaterally.

Dx?
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Before we get to the diagnosis, Inhalation of which of the following could explain his symptoms?

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The answer is ZAMBONI DISEASE!

Poorly maintained combustion engines produce carbon monoxide (CO), nitrogen oxides (NO₂), & other volatile organic compounds.

These compounds are heavier than air.

To avoiding melting the ice, there is often minimal ventilation in ice rinks.
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Jun 19, 2023
Lots of inane comments from Elon/Rohan bros that vaccines don’t prevent disease.

Let’s debunk these claims:
1. Polio - vaccine introduced 1957
ourworldindata.org/grapher/report…

2. Measles - vaccine introduced 1963
ourworldindata.org/grapher/measle… ImageImage
3. Tetanus - vaccine 1938
cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/…

4. Diphtheria
researchgate.net/publication/32… ImageImage
5. Hepatitis A - 1996
cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/6…

6. Hepatitis B - 1982
cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/6… ImageImage
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Jun 8, 2023
The long awaited #COVIDOUT RCT is now in @TheLancet:
- high risk adults randomized to either metformin (MET), ivermectin (IVM), fluvoxamine (FLV) or placebo.
- MET reduced the risk of long COVID (6.3% vs 10.4%; NNT = 24)
- no benefit with IVM or FLV

thelancet.com/journals/lanin…
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COVID-OUT was a large blinded multicenter RCT looking at repurposed oral meds.

The primary outcome was severe COVID; this was one of the *MANY* negative RCTs of ivermectin. (See 🧵👇)

The current study is a planned secondary analysis, looking at the incidence of long COVID.
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COVID-OUT was a factorial design enabling efficient evaluation of multiple oral medications in various combinations.

After diagnosis, subjects received meds by next day mail. They were followed up to 300 days (10 months).

Diagnosis of long COVID was made by a synonym survey
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May 28, 2023
Pulmonary teaching case: you are called to the bedside of a 60yo man who was admitted for pneumonia a week ago. You were called because “he coughed and now his chest is PULSATING!”

This is what you see at the site of a previously removed chest drain:

What’s the diagnosis?
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This is Empyema necessitans (EN):

EN is a rare complication of an infected pleural effusion where purulent fluid “escapes” the pleura and erodes into the chest wall, causing an extrapleural fluid collection that communicates with the pleural space.

From @Radiopaedia:
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Because Empyema necessitans communicates with the pleural space, fluid can move back & forth with respiration, as seen here:

With inspiration, negative intra-thoracic pressure pulls the fluid into the chest. With expiration, positive intra-thoracic pressure pushes fluid out.
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