I'll be sharing updates here from today's (Oct 4) POTUS #COVID19 medical briefing:
President 'has continued to improve', 'frequent ups and downs'
The President has experienced two drops of oxygen saturation.
He's on dexamethasone.
He's on dexamethasone.
On Friday, high fever and oxygen level dipping. Concerned for rapid progression at that time.
Was on 2L, saturation back above 95%. Was on that for an hour. "Off and gone"
That's when they decided to bring him to Walter Reed. So he WAS on oxygen.
Regarding his clinical status:

"Continues to improve"

Vital signs stable. On room air (no oxygen). No shortness of breath. Walking around "without limitation or disability"
Continued 'normal or improving findings' on lab work.

Now to Dr Garibaldi...
Completed second dose of Remdesivir. Tolerated well. No side effects. Liver and kidney function normal. That's good - sometimes there are side effects from this.
First dose of steroid dexamethasone given yesterday.
Maybe discharge from hospital as early as tomorrow.
The medical team is sharing @realDonaldTrump's praise for the excellent medical team at Walter Reed.
Had another oxygen saturation drop yesterday to 93%. Not really low.
"potential benefits of [dexamethasone]' outweighed risk...
Currently blood oxygen level is 98%.

What's on imaging? 'Some expected findings', but no more details.
Little cagey about oxygen saturations.
"Whose statement about the president's medical health should we believe"

Meadows was referring to fever and drop in oxygen saturation.

Being reassured it was just transient.
"Why isn't president wearing mask in videos?"

He says because medical staff is wearing PPE.

That's not appropriate.
'We perform lung spirometry on him'

'He's maxing it out'
Why didn't you tell us he was getting oxygen?

"I was trying to reflect the upbeat message..."

'came off that we were trying to hide something'

You were. Come on.
MY TAKEAWAYS:

They were misleading yesterday. We knew it. They admitted it.

Condition is apparently improving. Not on oxygen now. That's good.

Wouldn't share any imaging findings.

Some labs were 'improving' - don't know which were initially abnormal.

And steroids...
Didn't answer how high the fever was.

STILL DON'T KNOW LAST TEST NEGATIVE RESULT!

Deferred questions - 'have to check with the nurses'. That's strange. They need to know.
And dexamethasone...

There's a lot to say here, but let me quote the actual article:

nejm.org/doi/full/10.10…
“The RECOVERY trial provides evidence that treatment with dexamethasone at a dose of 6 mg once daily for up to 10 days reduces 28-day mortality in patients with Covid-19 who are receiving respiratory support..."
"We found no benefit (and the possibility of harm) among patients who did not require oxygen.”
So dexamethasone was found to be beneficial ONLY in patients on a ventilator OR on oxygen.

NOT on patients who don't need oxygen.

There was even the possibility of harm in that patient population.
They say 'expected findings' on CXR/CT:

I would expect bibasilar ground glass appearance. But could also be more consistent with pneumonia?

They didn't say 'normal', so not normal.
The President is now on at least 3 medications:

Regeneron mAbs
Remdesivir
And now steroids (dexamethasone)
And still no hydroxychloroquine FYI.
Personally, I don't think we are getting full transparency.

There are still some important missing data points here.

We don't know about last negative test. Fever course (is it no fever ON antipyretics?). Imaging results. Abnormal labs.
The timeline still doesn't add up.

Generally speaking, I wouldn't discharge a patient on 3 medications - including one that's only given by IV. Of course he's a different patient and they can undoubtedly do a lot of this in the White House.
Ok. I'm signing off. Still a bit confused. Need more details.
Wishing the president (and ALL the 30k #COVID19 patients currently hospitalized throughout the country without access to the same experimental meds and level of care) a swift recovery!

WEAR A F'ING MASK PEOPLE!
I want to add this great thread by infectious disease specialist @celinegounder with her thoughts on the POTUS health update. Most notably she WOULD start dexamethasone based on what we heard today.

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3 Oct
Some thoughts from the update on the President’s condition:
They said illness for 72 hours? Seems to be a different timeline than we heard.
They also said he got antibodies 48 hours ago. That’s Thursday morning.
Read 23 tweets
3 Oct
I’m getting a lot of questions about how fast COVID19 progresses:

I’ve seen 90 year olds test + and not have a sniffle for days.

I’ve seen 40 year olds come in stable and VERY rapidly decompensate.

There’s a lot of speculation right now. But the realm of possibilities IS vast.
I don’t know the specifics of the President’s case - but the American public should.

Maybe it’s all an abundance of caution? Or not.

Point being he could be stable. Or not. This virus is always fickle & sometimes ferocious.

I wish him a speedy recovery. And we need more info.
This timely transmission just in!

Reportedly not on supplemental oxygen.

Remdesivir started.

‘Doing very well’.
Read 7 tweets
10 Sep
I’m furious.

He didn’t want to cause a panic?!

It’s impossible the describe the panic, the sadness, the loneliness of family members that I called to tell their loved one had passed from ##COVID19. So. Many. Times.

And because we didn’t act, this happened everywhere in the US.
I’m furious because as a doctor, so many of these deaths were preventable. If only we acted at the outset.

He knew how dangerous and deadly this was.

And he did basically nothing.

He said it would disappear. He said we’d open by Easter. He said again it’s disappear.
IT NEVER DISAPPEARED.

All over the country there is virus circulating in our communities.

We’ve failed. Not because he didn’t know. But because HE DID NOT ACT!
Read 9 tweets
8 Sep
We need to talk about #LongCovid.

Many who had #COVID19 continue to experience complications long after their initial illness.

In this🧵below, I expand on what @angie_rasmussen and I discussed in this @ASlavitt podcast to outline what we do know and what needs to come next...
In that episode, you’ll notice how often we say “I think “ instead of a definitive “we know”.

But that doesn't mean we don't know a lot. We can draw from similar illnesses and the growing body of research, especially the patient-led work being done by #longhaulers themselves.
So first, what ARE ‘long-covid’ and chronic covid?

There’s no formally accepted definition, but post-covid (#LongCovid) includes those who haven't returned to baseline ~3 weeks after the onset of first symptoms.

And chronic covid includes those months out with ongoing symptoms.
Read 47 tweets
27 Aug
Others have pointed out the problems with the new @CDCgov testing recommendations for asymptomatic contacts of confirmed cases.

But it's important to point out the huge impact this guidance will have on the growing community of COVID19 #longhaulers...

cdc.gov/coronavirus/20…
When hospitals were overwhelmed in NYC in March and April, we sent home LOTS of patients who undoubtedly had COVID19 without testing them. We just didn't have the testing capacity at the time.

We advised them to 'just act like you have COVID, because you most likely do'...
Others, knowing they wouldn't be tested, didn't bother coming to the hospital at all. So they rode out the disease at home. And thankfully, most got better.

But so many didn't. Months later, they're still suffering with long-term complications from that initial illness...
Read 10 tweets
3 Aug
COVID19 disinformation is everywhere. And it's undermining our response in the US.

Below I tackle some of the most commonly mischaracterized things about #COVID19.

These are the facts. So get it on your aunt's Facebook wall or print it out and put it in the break-room!

THREAD
𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐞'𝐬 𝐚 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐚𝐠𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐏𝐏𝐄 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐔𝐒:

Months into the pandemic, providers are still reusing single-use items, including gowns & masks.

We need more PPE to keep us safe. Too many of our healthcare providers have been infected & died.

h/t @DrTomFrieden
𝐖𝐞'𝐫𝐞 𝐍𝐨𝐭 𝐓𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐄𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡:

Our testing has ramped up from a dismal & delayed start.

Are we finally doing more testing than most other countries? Yes.

The problem is we have much wider community spread. Which means we need way more testing. Like, WAY more! https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-test
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