@Lux48098905 @JulietLine @ChardonnayM @CStaffordSmith Wiik et al 2020 studied mass/strength in 11 TW, before and after intervention, all well within IOC T limits.
Wiik et al 2020 is one of 11 longitudinal studies of mass/strength in TW (some covering over 200 subjects), before and after intervention, all well within IOC limits.
Wiik et al 2020 is one of 11 longitudinal studies of mass/strength in TW (some covering over 200 subjects), before and after intervention, all well within IOC limits.
@Lux48098905 @JulietLine @ChardonnayM @CStaffordSmith In total, those 11 studies cover measurements of mass and/or strength in more than 800 TW, before and after 1-3 years of treatment, all well within IOC limits.
Please don’t tell me you’ve been fooled by the coincidence of 11 studies, one of which contains 11 participants. 😂
Please don’t tell me you’ve been fooled by the coincidence of 11 studies, one of which contains 11 participants. 😂
@Lux48098905 @JulietLine @ChardonnayM @CStaffordSmith Oh my god, you have, haven’t you?
What is the source of this error? Because this is seriously embarrassing.
What is the source of this error? Because this is seriously embarrassing.
@Lux48098905 @JulietLine @ChardonnayM @CStaffordSmith Here’s some help.
On the left, the relevant section of the WR guideline.
On the right, the list of references for the above section, with my annotations of participant number.
On the left, the relevant section of the WR guideline.
On the right, the list of references for the above section, with my annotations of participant number.
@Lux48098905 @JulietLine @ChardonnayM @CStaffordSmith WR references 10 cohorts; they elected not to use Haraldsen et al 2007 (12 participants), I presume because this cohort were not suppressing testosterone directly and the changes in muscle are apparently minute.
@Lux48098905 @JulietLine @ChardonnayM @CStaffordSmith A further note.
Dr Lundberg is the coauthor of an original study (the one that happens to contain 11 participants) *and* the corresponding author of a review of 11 longitudinal studies (one of which is his).
Dr Lundberg is the coauthor of an original study (the one that happens to contain 11 participants) *and* the corresponding author of a review of 11 longitudinal studies (one of which is his).
@Lux48098905 @JulietLine @ChardonnayM @CStaffordSmith Are you sure you’ve understood your conversations with Tommy, when he’s talked variously about his own cohort (11 TW) and/or our collected dataset (11 cohorts)?
@TLexercise @Scienceofsport
@TLexercise @Scienceofsport
@Lux48098905 @JulietLine @ChardonnayM @CStaffordSmith @TLexercise @Scienceofsport Although it’s not all a big old mixup because the other stuff you say is just nonsense.
No pre-hormone measurements? WR *only* used studies with pre-hormone measurements - that’s what ‘longitudinal’ means.
No pre-hormone measurements? WR *only* used studies with pre-hormone measurements - that’s what ‘longitudinal’ means.
@Lux48098905 @JulietLine @ChardonnayM @CStaffordSmith @TLexercise @Scienceofsport T levels not within IOC limits? WR *only* used studies where T suppression was successfully within not just IOC limits but below the more stringent 5nM threshold.
What is the source of these errors?
What is the source of these errors?
• • •
Missing some Tweet in this thread? You can try to
force a refresh
