Patrick Bramford offside because of the change in the handball law. Because you can now pay the ball with the top part of your arm the outstretched arm played him offside. This was onside last season to the armpit. #CRYLEE
Robert Lewandowski just had this goal disallowed for a marginal offside by the VAR.
Offside & VAR is a major issue in most leagues, not just the Premier League. #DerKlassiker
Here's another VAR "arm" offside from Spain a few weeks ago.
Bamford offside for pointing for the ball! Premier League VAR controversies rated
It's the Monday VAR thread. A busy one today for some reason.... including:
- Bamford offside
- Handball!
- Barkley offside
Starting with the worst of the weekend, the Patrick Bamford disallowed goal for Leeds at Palace.
There's no point going over the general flaws again, you can read about that in detail in the attached thread, but I'll cover the specifics of this decision.
First a reminder that you can now play the ball with the top of your arm after the law changed in the summer. It's why Mane was offside against Everton too.
And you can score with it; Gabriel already has for Arsenal against Fulham.
It's the Monday VAR thread, which this week will no doubt bring on the hate.
Including:
- Sheffield United penalty process at Liverpool
- Maguire vs. Azpilicueta
- Disallowed Arsenal goal
- Monitor use recap
- And more
Starting with Sheffield United's penalty at Liverpool for Fabinho's foul on Oliver McBurnie.
Contrary to what was reported in some places, the tackle was reviewed. In fact, there were three possible outcomes available to the VAR, who was Andre Marriner.
Outcome 1: Free kick to Sheffield United - challenge adjudged outside the area
Outcome 2: Penalty to Sheffield United - challenge deemed inside the area and a foul
Outcome 3: Dropped ball to Alisson - challenge deemed inside the area and NOT a foul
Here it is. The Monday VAR thread, offside special.
- What you're looking at / how it's done
- The true flaws in the system
- Why Mane offside correct (in process)
- Why law change made Van Dijk and Mane offside
- Upcoming automated offside
- PLUS: Pickford
It's long....
The first thing the VAR decides is the first point of contact of the pass on the ball.
Many scream about the frame rate without understanding the actual issue.
Frame rate doesn't mean it is not possible to make an accurate decision. However, it is inconsistent.
The correct frame for the first point of contact on the pass will almost always be clear to the VAR.
So when people say "that's not the correct frame, the ball has left the foot" it's not actually a problem of frame choice.
The problem is that the correct frame does not exist.
Virgil van Dijk offside by the new point of handball on the arm, rather than the armpit.
Last season, this would have been onside.
Note the red line doesn't go to the elbow. It carries through and that's the calculation point. #EVELIV
Clarification on Pickford/Van Dijk.... we all get one wrong now and then.
Pickford could have been sent off (probably should have been).
Had it confirmed that the VAR, David Coote, did NOT check for a red card. Appears he was too concerned with the offside. #EVELIV
The VAR, David Coote, should have checked there was a genuine attempt to play the ball by Jordan Pickford.
But after the offside was cleared, the check was complete and play restarted. There was no review for a possible red card against the keeper for the challenge. 🙄 #EVELIV
Six months ago I started cycling to football grounds close by me.
Let's say it go out of hand, and recently I decided it was worth raising some money, for #TeamDementiaUK in memory of my father - who would have been 82 at the end of October.
3,750 miles later....
...and I'm 193 grounds down, 9 to go to complete every one within a 40-mile cycling radius of where I live.
3,750: miles cycled
182: football stadiums (every ground from Premier League to Level 11)
6: Racecourses of the south east
5: other grounds
9: to go
Huge win for Scotland tonight over Czech Republic, they now need two points from their last two games (away to Slovakia and Israel) to with their League B group.
Scotland a great example of why taking the Nations League seriously can take you forward.
If Scotland do win their group, they will be firm favourites to take one of the two World Cup playoff spots reserved for Nations League teams (if needed).
Added to that, their results in the Nations League have pushed them up to Pot 3 in next month's World Cup qualifying draw.
Denmark's win over England cements their place in pot 1 for the World Cup qualifying draw.
And with Switzerland getting a draw in Germany, and Netherlands drawing with Italy, it's going to very tight for the last places in pot 1.