There are indeed plusses and minuses to the US vote-counting system, I said that before all this. Doesn't mean it's the optimum though.
Also we should probably wait and see how this all plays out before the victory lap.
Yeah that does sound nice. I'd be interested in seeing comparisons by country.
Ultimately one way or another, it's norms all the way down. Right now we're relying on certain norms from GOP elections commission members, Secretaries of State, and legislators. Maybe in another system we'd be relying on norms from National Election Commission civil servants.
Is one of those obviously better than another? I'm not sure. The US system did allow for, you know, a century of apartheid covering 40% of the country or whatever.
But there really are advantages to the super-decentralized US vote-counting system. Maybe it allows for more uh shenanigans but also limits the effects of same.
As I've said though this is where I depart from the self-styled savvy people who say "it's not about norms, it's about power". The power is from norms!

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