FWIW, this market did end up existing (OTC and a bit otherwise), usually traded around 80 or so. I think the distribution / cost of capital outlined in my thread was pretty reasonable but the risk of ruin estimate was REALLY high -- I think markets were WAY too low.
That's understandable, FWIW! Anyone selling their OKEx capital below fair was just buying insurance, and insurance has to trade at a premium to make sense for all involved. The premium in this case seemed to be like 10% or something, though -- which is a lot!
There were lots of other cool little effects along the way during the OKEx lockup -- speculation about USDT maybe being guaranteed by Justin Sun or Tether led to a HUGE premium, and similar for a few other coins. Messed up a bunch of indices, too.
And some futures on OKEx ended up trading at predictable-ish premia/discounts to similar products elsewhere as a result of big moves in their underlyings during a period when no one wanted to send in capital.
E.g. if I need more XRP for collateral for my leveraged short XRP futures when XRP goes up, I'm not gonna send it in -- so I've either gotta buy the futures or buy spot, leading to a predictable premium bump in both of those on OKEx.
But yeah, this presented a cool, unique opportunity for trading if you a) felt like you understood the situation better than the market b) had risk appetite and were able to sell insurance and c) were paying attention to second order effects.
Love idiosyncratic stuff like this! And can't wait for the funds to get unlocked soon :P

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25 Nov
What happened here? Quick thread while I brace for impact, in a way. Image
Heading into the past few weekdays U.S. time, there's been a kind of predictable pattern. Everyone knows the narrative by now -- BTC is getting bought up by institutional investors and other entities in the U.S. So BTC has been going up in the morning! Makes sense.
But let's suppose that the world understands this pattern -- won't it just go up before that? Well, today that *did* happen -- from about noon HK time right until the big crash at the peak, BTC steadily rose, presumably as people expected BTC to get bought during U.S. hours. Image
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So, what is BTC doing right now? I don’t *know* what’s driving a lot of it directionally (I do have theories, of course, but I don’t exactly know), but given that “up” is the direction it’s chosen to go in general, there is some headway I can make in dissecting what’s going on.
So, first off, why “up”? There’s been a lot of discourse about this -- some reasons for BTC to go up I’ve seen postulated include lots of institutional buying, increased adoption, “whales,” outflows from faddish products back into BTC, influence from other markets, etc.
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A thread about tails -- or, bullshitting about things that no one can really know for sure.

Something you’ll hear people talk about in trading a lot is “tails.” What are they, and why do they matter so much? To discuss, I think it’s worth delving into some examples, and why they often come down to making your best guesses about things it’s basically impossible to know.
Technically, tails refer to the sections of a distribution graph that are off to the sides -- see the attached graphs. A distribution is called “fat-tailed” if it’s relatively “flat” -- that is, if the probability one of its outcomes is far from the mean is relatively high.
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BTC has been quite the roller coaster lately -- just like old times! What’s causing all the BTC volatility lately? Also just like old times, I think it’s a combo of news, SPY correlation, and “weird liquidation effects,” but with a bit of a modern twist.
First, the news. There’s been a lot of big events recently which BTC (and the broader market, but notably BTC) has reacted strongly to in one direction or the other. This is a real throwback to 2017 -- it hasn’t felt like news impacts BTC much lately.
BitMEX KYC, OKEx hack caused BTC to go down, Paypal, the Singapore bank, and general “institutiuonal adoption” caused it to go up. Mostly these were predictable and happened over a short time period, and mostly BTC reverted a bit from each of them over the next hours or days.
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Given that Alameda is a *trading* company first and foremost, I thought I’d share some thoughts on how we think about trading (in contrast to Sam’s thread about how we think about investing longer-term).
On some level, investing is just trading if you forget about exiting your positions, so there’s certainly a lot of overlap between our mindsets in investing vs. trading. But there are also a lot of differences, which I’ll highlight here.
The gist of all of our activities? Follow the money. If there’s money somewhere, we want to be there. And so we devote a lot of time and energy to 1) figuring out where the money is 2) getting there.
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I’ve mentioned a number of times how Alameda relies really heavily on human decision making, and we’d be significantly less profitable if we just let our bots run free. I thought I’d take a chance to explain one way in which that’s directly true.
So behold: one of our internal PNL graphs:
Every day we generate lots of these graphs for different segments of our trading to try to understand how things have been going lately -- we might split out by underlying coin, exchange, spot/perpetuals/quarterlies, which strategy it was, etc.
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