Short thread on mantras and why their translation into other languages will not work (especially into English and other European languages)
The question is asked “We can’t understand Sanskrit mantras, why not translate into English and listen to the meaning instead of chanting?”
Before one comes to the answers, let me ask a few questions which I asked myself:
Q1: Did you the chanter see the mantra or did someone else?
Q2: What is the quality and power of the Sanskrit language? Does it have any advantages?
Q3: are mantras/ deities visible to naked eye?
Let’s answer Q1 which I asked of myself first?
Ans1: Each mantra is seen by someone pracheen being: this could be a Rishi or a Devata or someone else:
For example, Bhairava the Devata is mantra drsta for a lot of mantras...
Vasistha/Vishwamitra/Markandeya are all great Rishis
The next question is about Sanskrit itself.
Ever thought about why this language is called Devanagari?
Literally “Language of the Gods”
It does not matter what people fantasise about, never fool yourself that your translation can do any justice to the actual mantra syllables.
Now to the nitty gritty:
What’s the wave form of the mantra?
AND
What’s the wave form of the translation?
Are the two wave forms the SAME or are they very different?
If the wave form is not the same, then how will your translation have the same vibrational influence on the body and it’s sheaths which the original mantra has?
You may wish to understand the mantra BUT trust me on this:
The understanding that one gains from simple translations of a mantra into English or otherwise are simply not going to possess the transformative power of the mantra itself.
Mantras transform... they vibrate with a frequency. When you recite it the body and it’s sheaths vibrate with those frequencies.. your understanding is different when you become the mantra.
The mantra is the verbal incarnation of the Deity/Devata.
The final question:
Can you see the Devata?
In this context, in fact, when the mantra becomes stationary inside you, then it’s power manifests automatically as you.
If one can do this then they have become the Devata (as the mantra is the verbal incarnation of the Devata)
Upamsu vs Manasika japa
In upamsu some movement. Mantra aligns with breath but effect disturbed somewhat.
Devi visualisation is different inside Sadhaka.
Shakti is different to Manasika who follows in next tweet.
Manasika japa no movement of body or lips. Now mind and breath align with mantra to greater/ full extent.
Ardhanarishwar mantra form- formation (using mantra body of Goddess of the mantra + Shiva of that Devi) inside the sadhaka if the mantra sadhana succeeds.
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Jai Shanidev.
My old post on Tipu Sultan is well known:
Certain objects attract a terrific negative energy. One such jinxed object (in my opinion) is the sword of Tipu Sultan.
Sanjay Khan was shooting the serial drama “Sword Of Tipu Sultan” when a major fire took place on 8 February 1989, in the Premier Studios of Mysore where the drama was being shot.
If I remember correctly, Sanjay Khan had held that sword some time before the event.
The fire was an inferno...
temperatures touched 250 deg F and the entire set went on fire.
27 charred bodies were found on the set eventually... 62 lives lost in one of those once in a lifetime fires on a set.
Sword of Tipu Sultan.
I disagree. There is a way of doing this ritual to remember and satisfy the ancestors and it’s worked for generations. Adapted to modern life are simple rituals like below link. Why to change something which works for something which is not proven?
Since we Hindus are a people who like Pratyaksha Pramana, there are numerous people whose lives have improved after Pitru Shraddha at Gaya and other places. Why should we change it for something else?
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And ask me, I will show so many examples of people’s lives which have been (according to their testimony) been horrible prior to Pinda daan not being performed and improved significantly afterwards.
I remember the next or was it the next evening very well.
Two of the friends of one of the deceased: a boy killed in those horrific murders .... drove up behind me on their Kawasakis because they could not locate him. (The killed friend was Rohan ... one of my close friends)
Remember there were no mobile phones in those days. But we used to be out on motorcycles the entire day. That evening was overcast.
I stopped and I still remember the look on my other two friends faces clearly.
Have you seen Rohan?
I was puzzled. I said, let’s search for him.
For those who feel that homam didn’t give them results and prescribe Vishnu Sahasranaam (and japa), here is an interesting conundrum and I hv seen this 100’s of times in last two decades.
Japa = no tangible result.
Why?
I see weekly at least a few people who say that japa did not work and they have finished around 10,000 japa or so... now what to do?
Why did this happen?
I will tell you my opinion.
This was my precise observation in the 1990’s. Japa technique if one desires a very tangible result (job/marriage/health) is really difficult to bring about unless one just does graha japa.
Devata japa takes serious time and energy over years. An observation only.
Chanting of Sahasranaam:
General thread:
Vishnu Sahasranaam:
Excellent choice. Do chant. Verbal and non verbal both produce results.
Nakshatra mapping available
Asked by many about Lalitha Sahasranaam:
I have personally seen many teach it (including @homam108’s wife for free) and mass chant it in numerous places (including Swami Sathashivom) and others.
Works and it’s excellent.
Now what about people who say that don’t chant it because of beeja mantras and Nyasa... this is not a problem in general.
Those who quote that it should not be done because of pronunciation issues...that is everywhere. You have to take care of that, onus on you.
So, a very few people asking about japa:
The japa of 1.25 lakhs can be completed in around 2 months at 21 malas a day.
It will take around 2 hours for medium length mantras and reasonable umampshu method.
This japa of 1.25 lakhs is repeated 3 times in a course of a year with gaps of 2 months in between each 1.25 lakh krama.
In 3 years, at this rate, 9 lakhs japa is completed.
The main issues which will arise: 1. To eat less and to somehow reduce heat in the body, 2. To avoid disease during the 9 lakh krama. 3. To slow down the effects of the karma you are burning.
That will cause you some problems, for that graha homa may help.