What's the point of cultured meat when we can eat vegetables?

What's the point of renewables when we can use less energy?

Or of electric bikes when we can walk?

Well maybe decrease global warming, animal suffering, and zoonotic disease?
amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
I get so sick and tired of people postulating "If everybody changed their behavior we wouldn't need sustainable innovation."

Well, unless you have a magic wand to change everybody's behavior, you are not helping. And even if you had you would lack respect for others.
Author @jennykleeman is now saying 'I didn't write the headline'. But the headline captures her article perfectly. She mentions none of the aforementioned problems and concentrates on yuck and how cultured meat can't be trusted by implying Singapore is an inferior country. Uhg.
Just to be clear: I'm not saying "we don't need to change our behavior because we have sustainable innovation". E.g. I love meat and cheese but eat vegan.

I think we should pursue both behavior and technology while realizing not everybody makes the same choices.

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5 Dec
Love this! @JoeriRogelj asked me for a debunk of Golf vs e-Golf and @ThomasGibon provided it immediately!

He shows the result using realistic diesel consumption and production. Thx Thomas!

But the article is about the ID.3.
And the ID.3 rocks! (thread)
First the problems: in an article that touts the carbon neutral production of the ID.3, @volkswagen puts a comparison chart with an eGolf that has extremely high carbon production emissions. Not smart. I would replace it with an ID.3 based chart asap.
volkswagenag.com/en/news/storie…
And while you are at it I would also cut/improve second 8 to 14 of the accompanying video because why bother telling lies about how much CO2 is emitted by the petrol and diesel Golf when you have such a strong story about the electric vehicle?
Read 9 tweets
29 Nov
Thread with tweets I refer to often.

First my studies showing EVs are really much better

Article Joule

CO2 study with Prof Steinbuch avere.org/wp-content/upl…

Us in Der Spiegel

Transport & Environment tool
Then some debunks of articles that exaggerate CO2 emissions by electric vehicles (EVs) in the British press.

Let's start with #AstonGate.
I show EVs emit less after 16k miles (not 50k).
Michael shows bad intentions.
There was a whole host of this nonsense. Here's a debunk of nonsense in the Spectator


The Global Warming Policy Foundation is behind much of the FUD. Here's a back and forth
thegwpf.org/content/upload…

Deep dive into oil production
Read 12 tweets
29 Nov
From #dieselgate you may know that carmakers get away with untruthful tests in the EU.

That's important for both scientists and consumers.

Here I explain on Dutch TV @kassa_bnnvara how these lies made taxi drivers buy the wrong EV:
bnnvara.nl/kassa/videos/5…

But there's more!
But it's not just bad for immigrant taxi drivers who see their entire livelihood threatened by the lies because they buy an electric vehicle with too little range and slow fast charging. It also leads to many more people dying of exhaust.
And finally it leads to combustion vehicles seemingly emitting less exhaust which in turn leads to newspaper stories claiming it takes 50k miles for an EV to emit less when it's already closer to 16k miles (and getting less all the time).
Read 7 tweets
27 Nov
New 'study' claims it takes 48k miles for electric vehicles to emit less CO2 than gasoline cars.

But it's just a misleading brochure.
Reality is closer 16k miles.

UK media including @thetimes where mislead by this carmaker-paid attack on @BorisJohnson's green plans. (thread) Image
About me:

I research electric vehicles at @TUeindhoven and direct NEONresearch.nl.

Comparing CO2 emissions of electric vehicles and combustion cars is my specialty.

My paper describing common errors: sciencedirect.com/science/articl…

A recent report:
avere.org/wp-content/upl… Image
Here is @thetimes @GraemePaton reporting on 'a study commissioned by vehicle and technology companies' where 'researchers recorded results'.
thetimes.co.uk/article/electr…

And there's literally dozens of others who fell for this. ImageImageImage
Read 29 tweets
27 Nov
There's a study financed by EV sceptics Bosch, Honda, McLaren and Aston Martin doing the round, partly based on a study saying a Polestar takes 50k miles to emit less CO2.

Will debunk it this evening but could people maybe add links to places where it pops up?
And about daily mail. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8…
Read 4 tweets
27 Nov
@MLiebreich @Joost57437492 Everybody (well maybe 12 people so far) is asking me to debunk this article in the times. The problem: I don't know which study they are talking about. Can twitter help
thetimes.co.uk/article/electr…
Polestar published some numbers on it's study in september polestar.com/dato-assets/11…
and if I look at the @thetimes article they copy the numbers from that study. I briefly talk about that comparison here:
Main problems with this Polestar study:

1) The XC40 of parent company Volvo uses 45% more petrol than Polestar assumes if you take reality instead of WLTP.

2) The Polestar itself (not the battery) already emits 3 tonnes more. (Build next to a coal plant?)
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