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Tim Wise

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13 Dec

Y'all can scream and yell about Antifa all you like but between people who will actually confront fascists and stand up to them and those who think they can be reasoned with, converted to prog/left class analysis, or need to be "understood," I'll take the former every time.

That doesn't mean there isn't a valid critique of certain tactics, strategies & particular actions. As is true in ANY political formation. The question is, should we respond to fascists with kindness and ecumenism or militant self-defense? No evidence the first of these works

I feel like those who critique Antifa but are on the progressive/left of the spectrum really believe you can reason with fascists, or turn them on to Gramsci if given enough time, or some such shit...

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Tim Wise

@timjacobwise

10 Dec

1/ So Rush Limbaugh says liberals and conservatives can't co-exist, but we did, before the likes of him and other radio loudmouths came along, spinning the notion that the left was evil, trying to kill God, the country, white people, marriage, etc...he and his ilk are to blame...

2/ ...and fact is, we have no choice but to co-exist, however uneasily. There are no purely liberal or conservative states. There are plenty of liberals in he reddest states (usually in larger cities) and conservatives in the bluest. They have a right to live where they wish...

3/ how would the likes of Limbaugh suggest secession could even work? I live in TN. A red state w/a GOP super majority in the legislature. But Nashville, Memphis and Chattanooga (the engines of growth in the state btw) are blue, and Knoxville, though red has many liberals too..

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Tim Wise

@timjacobwise

7 Dec

https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1335953398298980353

Yes, and there is no contradiction there. He was saying Trump's victory, though real -- i.e., he got the most votes in the key EC states -- was achieved due in part to interference from Russia. He wasn't questioning whether Trump actually got the most votes

https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1335953398298980353

It's like if someone argued a candidate won because of "dark money" influence, or disinformation by trolls (whether foreign or domestic). It isn't questioning IF someone won. It's questioning the forces that caused that to happen. That's different than the Q loons and Trumpkins

So it Trumpkins said, yeah our guy lost but only bc the liberal media wouldn't give him honest coverage, blah blah blah, I would disagree but that's at least admitting a fact about the outcome. THAT is equal to what the left or Dems said after 16 re: Russia, troll farms, etc

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Tim Wise

@timjacobwise

6 Dec

1/ However aggravating you find so-called wokeness to be, deliberate anti-wokeness is many orders of magnitude worse. Bc it almost always serves to rationalize inequity, injustice, and the demonizing of marginalized peoples, not just the style or manner of protest activity...

2/ Very few critics of those they call social justice warriors or the woke left (or whatever) are people who also spend time challenging systemic racism & other forms of injustice, but merely opt for different tactics. More often they deny the very existence of systemic racism...

3/ It's sort of like the loudest critics of cancel culture. Most are not people who have a history of challenging racism, sexism, transphobia, etc but merely think it should be done in a different way. They are mostly people who rarely ever challenge or care about those things...

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Tim Wise

@timjacobwise

2 Dec

1/12 The absurd desire some liberals & progressives have to reach out to Trump's base (even those who believe the Q shit or think COVID's a hoax) stems from 1 of 3 things: either an intellectual arrogance that says we're so smart we can explain facts to folks & they'll change...

2/12 Or (for the more lefty types) a naive romanticization of 'salt of the earth' white people (especially those deemed working class), whom we still view in Steinbeckian terms, and who we think can be made to see their 'real enemies' are the millionehhhs and the billionehhhs...

3/12 Or an emotional neediness to be liked by everyone and have everyone get along because we don't like conflict. Notice the right doesn't play this game: they just steamroll folks. They deploy power. We fear it, because it seems mean or undemocratic or something...

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Tim Wise

@timjacobwise

1 Dec

1/ White conservatives like to tell Black folks to "stop wallowing in victimhood" by talking about racism. But they literally marinate in grievance and a sense of their own victimhood as a matter of daily routine. Let's count all the ways they feel victimized shall we? ...

2/ Even before Trump they insisted they were the victims of taxes, secular humanists, feminism, "radical Islam," political correctness, affirmative action, welfare cheats, immigrants taking their jobs, government regulations, auto emissions laws, militant LGBTQ activists...

3/ ...a ban on organized school prayer, the Endangered Species Act, the liberal media, Hollywood liberals, Obamacare, a ban on assault weapons, and background checks for gun purchases, rampant crime (even though it's fallen by more than 1/2 since the early 90s)...

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