Harrods and fishing - a thread

For the benefit of @christopherhope who was correct on the telly today

and Paul Stains - @GuidoFawkes - who wasn't

tl:dr Harrods is worth more to the UK economy than fishing....

... has been for a few years.

... now not even close

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes This first arose when I calculated the fact and stated clearly the underlying rationale in a 2018 column and a tweet



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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes Having been true but forgotton, it came up today and then Paul Stains started to pretend it was false, and then, when I demonstrated it wasn't, to suggest my facts were mere "conjecture"

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes He doesn't understand economics and clearly cannot read company accounts, but I can.

So I will take @GuidoFawkes though this in meticulous detail. Politely

1. You need to understand how economic is measured. It is based on the concept of value added

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes This is the value a business or sector adds - conceptually this is the equivalent of the wage bill plus operating profits (using the income measure of GDP)

For fishing - this is very easy as the @ons publish low level aggregates

Here is the latest: ons.gov.uk/economy/grossd…

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes @ONS Let's look inside the spreadsheet and you need to find what the code for fishing is: Look at the 03

Then you look at the current price gross value added - here is the most recent data

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes @ONS So, you can see from the data that in the year to Q1 2020, the fishing and aquaculture sector of the economy was worth £437m to the UK economy

Remember that number because now we have to look at Harrods accounts from Companies House …te.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/018893…

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes @ONS You have to understand what sort of business Harrods is. It is a retailer but also does other stuff and has concessions in store

The turnover of the business was £1,040m in the same period, and total sales in Harrods stores (with concessions) excluding VAT was £2,018m

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes @ONS Lets take the Harrods own brand retailing part first (The £1,040 turnover). Clearly that is not value added - it's turnover.

So go to the profit and loss account for the operating profit - its £257m - that is value added

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes @ONS Now we need to add the wage bill, because that is also value added. For that we need to find note 8 in the accounts - total staff costs are £180m

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes @ONS The numerate among us will note that
£257m + £180m = £437m

And I could stop there £437m > £436m

But that would be a bit close - so you then need to think about the other sales in Harrods not part of group's turnover

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes @ONS These will be things like concessions that operate inside Harrods but staff are employed by others - look jobs are advertised and easily found with a google search

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes @ONS This will all be on top of the £437m as will the operating profits made by these operations.

We can't know how much exactly, but there was £437m value added in Harrods turnover, so it will be a few hundred million

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@christopherhope @GuidoFawkes @ONS So, that's how I originally researched the facts (and, of course, spoke to Harrods to check my understanding).

And so Paul @GuidoFawkes, it wasn't "wrong" or "conjecture", but careful research

I can explain what that is again in silly detail, if you wish...

ENDS

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Maybe you should do some proper research.

As you know, it's a GVA calculation not exports

The Harrods accounts are not just the store itself, but the GVA of the concessions that operate within the building (which are estimated from the staffing cost)
Now - where your attempted putdown is really badly wrong is in a comparison of GVA with the value of fish exports.

Has it occured to you that within the £2bn of fish exports will be:
- imported fish (we process in the UK)
- value of buying, selling and transporting fish...
These are the GVA of respectively
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plus there will be many other business services GVA in fish exports

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My estimates suggest that excess deaths are now beginning to decline

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