@tommy_pane @Delavegalaw Is is my deep hope, for your sake, you are simply being churlish, or maybe your attempt at being funny, or maybe just sore because what you are devoted to is crumbling.
But I suspect you are none of these.
Which is exceedingly sad.

So now you will be part of those who nurse
@tommy_pane @Delavegalaw 2/ their resentments, muttering, like your iconic leader, "I won... They stole it from me... I won... there is no way I lost..."
In an endless loop.
And while you probably won't be violent you will be in support of those who are, & think it just.

That is your prerogative.
Enjoy
@tommy_pane @Delavegalaw 3/ You and those that call themselves Trump devotees, the ones who finally metastasized into yesterday's attack, & those not there, but who would have been, perhaps wanted to be, but see no problem with what happened..In fact, as you imply, think it exactly what is needed in the
@tommy_pane @Delavegalaw 4/ public square...
I'll no longer debate you.
I have attempted to engage you, sometimes cajole you, sometimes try and reason with you... All to no good effect.

You won't believe it, of course, but you are increasingly devoted to half assed, childish - but serious- theories
@tommy_pane @Delavegalaw 5/ that you repeat like a rosery... The "Russia Hoax" line, the inability to address a fact with anything other than a distraction... all the stuff we have jousted over...

So I'll leave this convo, and this debate with a low hope that you will pay attention, at least think about
@tommy_pane @Delavegalaw 6/ what is being told here in this short, but profound, post by @TimothyDSnyder.

Trump has been foisting a lie on the country.
It has little to do w your primary libertarian issues, though they have been used as keywords to gain access.

@tommy_pane @Delavegalaw 7/ You should read his books,or at least find some of his lectures and presentations on You Tube.

This is a fellow who understands the historical context of our contemporary moment. It is beyond simple libertarian v mainline ideas... Talking about what are the conditions that
@tommy_pane @Delavegalaw 8/ destroy democracies and enable dictatorships & tyranny.

Perhaps this does not concern you. It should.

I take the time to offer this coda bec we have had a long 'joust'.
I hope you receive it as it is offered.

It really is time to abandon the lie that is Trump(ism)

/out

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8 Jan
@SamHarrisOrg An entry into the debate of 'free will' and how people develop.
I wonder sometimes if what you see as unconditional outcomes is due in some large part to the underlying conditioning that conscribes one's self.

This image struck me along those lines. Image
I gather you see this as just another effect in the universal cosmic Cause... An inevitable happening that must be seen as an effect, rather than a 'cause' of its own?
Is every analysis of the context and conditioning of people subject to the trump card of 'yep, that is how it must be given the massive totality of all the forces leading to this moment'.
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8 Jan
@TimothyDSnyder Needs to be on every major media explaining what has happened, how it has been being set up for years, the patterns of Authoritarian take over..
And the fact that we are not yet done with this.
It is still hot. Trump remains a force - another pattern.

Must learn.
Looking back, not even 100 years ago, to the last major authoritarian assault. There are patterns. We are in the middle of our version, so we do not have a clear idea if we are at the beginning, the Putsch, or the end, the Bunker.
There are pieces of both.
It depends, largely
on whether we are capable of hearing the clear statements and assessments of our historians like Snyder and Heather Cox. And the journalists, writers, like @anneapplebaum who see things from a larger contextual perspective.
Read 7 tweets
8 Jan
Disgusting beyond words.

If it was not clear before it is transparent now: Trump & many of his followers are about this flag and all it stands for.

Others have noted that this flag was unable to overturn the Union & never made it into the Capitol in the darkest of days.

This.. Image
This is how dark Trump has always been.
Charlottesville was one notable prior example.

This has to be met.

msn.com/en-us/news/us/…
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7 Jan
@tommy_pane I know there are serious issues, corruption, systemic, political, social... all of it. If you read my posts you would know that. I am no Pollyanna thinking everything is just fine, except those damn Trumpies.
I am aware of the dangers & damages of unrestrained capitalism....
@tommy_pane 2/ again, if you read my other posts, you would know that. Especially global capitalism. Especially re the planet, our society, social good, etc.

But Trump is so much not the answer. He is a corruption beyond what he, or any of his supports, like you, think he would solve.
@tommy_pane 3/ That you cannot see that... that you think some sort of anarchy, or at least sedition like was on display yesterday is ok... No.
Whatever the problems of America are, and they are plenty... they are not solved by this madman, sotted with his power lusting, childs level ego.
Read 11 tweets
7 Jan
It is a common place to recognize how the world seems to spin faster. In every domain things that once took years, takes months, or days to complete a cycle.
And now in politics.

Trump has run the gamut from gathering power, seemingly invincible to bunker phase in record time.
Any number of examples.
Here are a few.

From 2019
Yesterday, Jan 6

Calling for his 'troops' to move...

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6 Jan
The mobs have been activated. But who would have guessed they would get through and into the Senate Chamber.

This is an iconic image.

This is what is happening; What was promised by Trump & others; What was unbelievable even days ago.

axios.com/trump-congress…
Reminds of this.
And Gulliani talking this morning about 'trials by combat.'

Image
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