@SamHarrisOrg An entry into the debate of 'free will' and how people develop.
I wonder sometimes if what you see as unconditional outcomes is due in some large part to the underlying conditioning that conscribes one's self.

This image struck me along those lines.
I gather you see this as just another effect in the universal cosmic Cause... An inevitable happening that must be seen as an effect, rather than a 'cause' of its own?
Is every analysis of the context and conditioning of people subject to the trump card of 'yep, that is how it must be given the massive totality of all the forces leading to this moment'.
That any 'choice' made, is redominated as "yep, part of the inescapable 'that is what had to happen', and so it happened.

There is a circular logic to the idea that eludes me. Probably cant think deep enough about it to get it.
It does seem that the assertion contains its
conclusions. Which is a way of suggesting, if not saying, that the theory seems unscientific in that it is not possible to be proven wrong. There is no condition that can be posed that can disprove the underlying premise. That being, everything happens bec it must happen.
Anyway. Probably just showing my ignorance & inability to grok the depth at which you see.

In the meantime, at some level, this picture, and its implications also has some value, meaning, and lessons to be learned.

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10 Jan
Interesting how the shift in the 'pubs message is now "hey, lets get unified". And do that by trying, yet again, to elude consequences...and investigation, into what happened.
We have tried that path multiple times already.
It does not work.

Rep. Jordan does not see!..
(thread)
Of course not. It is imperative that he not see.

Here is how it works...The way you and your team always put up a concrete wall when it comes to the relatively petty crimes some people do. They need to learn the lesson by suffering the consequences of their choices.
Consequences you absolve those who actually do deep and structural damage to the country from. At least until it cannot be ignored any longer, and you need a "sacrificial lamb".

Looking forward to seeing which 'lambs' will be offered up for this monumental moment.

Eventually
Read 10 tweets
9 Jan
@tommy_pane @CrisesMimetic @cdsmith80 @DominicNeiman @MarlaYouTourist @mtaibbi It is foolish to engage you any more.. We are not in agreement at the foundational levels. Not about liberty.
But the fact, now fully exposed, that you are willing, happy even, to engage violence to gain your "liberty".
You, along w Trump, the leader, and the tribe the
@tommy_pane @CrisesMimetic @cdsmith80 @DominicNeiman @MarlaYouTourist @mtaibbi 2/ doers, you are willing to breach the fundamental principle of 'The rule of law', and 'No one is above the law'.
You will cite revolutions of the past, maybe even the American Rev.
And I will laugh that you would equate what is happening now with then.
@tommy_pane @CrisesMimetic @cdsmith80 @DominicNeiman @MarlaYouTourist @mtaibbi 3/ The model before us now, and what has always been the underlying issue w Trump, and Trumpism, is not the Am Rev which brought us the ability to even think about such things as Free Speech et al.
But 1930's Germany, and the #Brownshirts and the devotion to the goal of getting
Read 8 tweets
8 Jan
@TimothyDSnyder Needs to be on every major media explaining what has happened, how it has been being set up for years, the patterns of Authoritarian take over..
And the fact that we are not yet done with this.
It is still hot. Trump remains a force - another pattern.

Must learn.
Looking back, not even 100 years ago, to the last major authoritarian assault. There are patterns. We are in the middle of our version, so we do not have a clear idea if we are at the beginning, the Putsch, or the end, the Bunker.
There are pieces of both.
It depends, largely
on whether we are capable of hearing the clear statements and assessments of our historians like Snyder and Heather Cox. And the journalists, writers, like @anneapplebaum who see things from a larger contextual perspective.
Read 7 tweets
8 Jan
Disgusting beyond words.

If it was not clear before it is transparent now: Trump & many of his followers are about this flag and all it stands for.

Others have noted that this flag was unable to overturn the Union & never made it into the Capitol in the darkest of days.

This..
This is how dark Trump has always been.
Charlottesville was one notable prior example.

This has to be met.

msn.com/en-us/news/us/…
Read 4 tweets
7 Jan
@tommy_pane I know there are serious issues, corruption, systemic, political, social... all of it. If you read my posts you would know that. I am no Pollyanna thinking everything is just fine, except those damn Trumpies.
I am aware of the dangers & damages of unrestrained capitalism....
@tommy_pane 2/ again, if you read my other posts, you would know that. Especially global capitalism. Especially re the planet, our society, social good, etc.

But Trump is so much not the answer. He is a corruption beyond what he, or any of his supports, like you, think he would solve.
@tommy_pane 3/ That you cannot see that... that you think some sort of anarchy, or at least sedition like was on display yesterday is ok... No.
Whatever the problems of America are, and they are plenty... they are not solved by this madman, sotted with his power lusting, childs level ego.
Read 11 tweets
7 Jan
@tommy_pane @Delavegalaw Is is my deep hope, for your sake, you are simply being churlish, or maybe your attempt at being funny, or maybe just sore because what you are devoted to is crumbling.
But I suspect you are none of these.
Which is exceedingly sad.

So now you will be part of those who nurse
@tommy_pane @Delavegalaw 2/ their resentments, muttering, like your iconic leader, "I won... They stole it from me... I won... there is no way I lost..."
In an endless loop.
And while you probably won't be violent you will be in support of those who are, & think it just.

That is your prerogative.
Enjoy
@tommy_pane @Delavegalaw 3/ You and those that call themselves Trump devotees, the ones who finally metastasized into yesterday's attack, & those not there, but who would have been, perhaps wanted to be, but see no problem with what happened..In fact, as you imply, think it exactly what is needed in the
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