@cjsnowdon @mitrebarnet Then why do you reply with something about deaths, not hospitalisations?
1. Data on hospital ‘admissions’ of patients with C19 includes anyone who has had a positive PCR test up to 14 days before admission, on admission or after admission: (coronavirus.data.gov.uk/about-data#eng…)/
1. Data on hospital ‘admissions’ of patients with C19 includes anyone who has had a positive PCR test up to 14 days before admission, on admission or after admission: (coronavirus.data.gov.uk/about-data#eng…)/
@cjsnowdon @mitrebarnet 2. Any person testing positive within different seven day periods would be counted within each of those? See, from the NHS publication:
For example, if a person was tested on Thursday and Friday of the same week, they would only be counted once in the reporting week.
For example, if a person was tested on Thursday and Friday of the same week, they would only be counted once in the reporting week.
@cjsnowdon @mitrebarnet However, if someone was tested on Tuesday and Friday of the same week, that individual would be counted in 2 reporting periods, as the 2 tests fall into different 7-day reporting periods.
(gov.uk/government/pub…)
(gov.uk/government/pub…)
@cjsnowdon @mitrebarnet Thus, those who are included on the data as having been ‘admitted’ to hospital with Covid-19 include:
(a)Those who tested positive up to 14 days before admission but have not had had the virus for weeks or months (‘false positives’);
(a)Those who tested positive up to 14 days before admission but have not had had the virus for weeks or months (‘false positives’);
@cjsnowdon @mitrebarnet (b)Those who tested positive up to 14 days before admission but are asymptomatic;
(c)Those who tested positive up to 14 days before admission who, while unwell, were admitted to hospital for another reason;
(c)Those who tested positive up to 14 days before admission who, while unwell, were admitted to hospital for another reason;
@cjsnowdon @mitrebarnet (d)Those who caught the virus in hospital, not in the community, whether or not they are ill with and being treated for C19; and
(e)Anyone who has previously counted as an ‘admission’ who tests positive in a subsequent weekly testing period.
(e)Anyone who has previously counted as an ‘admission’ who tests positive in a subsequent weekly testing period.
@cjsnowdon @mitrebarnet Which is why the only objective way of measuring the severity of this winter is by comparing total occupancy of hospitals and ICUs with other winters in the last twenty years. When one does that, it is not outside the envelope.
@cjsnowdon @mitrebarnet And it is far less severe than the winter of 1999-2000.
@cjsnowdon @mitrebarnet But even if it was outside the 'envelope' of the last 20 years, that would not remotely justify the extraordinary and unprecedented (before 2020) Chinese totalitarian measures being imposed now; measures that any right thinking person would before have dismissed as unthinkable.
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