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14 Jan, 16 tweets, 3 min read
You know, @jtlevy ought to talk more about his book in relation to contemporary politics. It seems relevant to these interesting times. 1/ books.google.com.sg/books/about/Ra… Image
Let me try to condense a main lesson of it, as I see it, and give an obvious, contemporary application. 2/
Liberalism (in the broad sense, not the partisan D sense) concerns the proper relationship between the individual and the state. This leave 'intermediate groups' - thick civic society - betwixt and between. 3/
The 'proper' role of intermediate groups makes an antinomy. On the one hand, groups should be liberal through-and-through. Otherwise, individuals - who enjoy liberal rights and liberties! - may be unjustly 'trapped' in pockets of illiberal order. 4/
On the other hand, groups must be allowed to be quite illiberal. Part of liberalism is the right to form, via free association, little illiberal pockets - your weird church, say. 5/
The liberal-through-and-through option Levy calls 'rationalism'. The everyone-can-build-intentional-illiberal-communities option he calls 'pluralism'. Both options admit of reductio developments, run to 'pure' extremes. 6/
That is, 'rationalist' liberalism turns out to be illiberal (you lack the liberal freedom to be 'irrationally' illiberal, locally.) 'Pluralist' liberalism turns out to be illiberal since free association, widely practiced, can burden bystanders intolerably. 7/
(If Twitter and Google and Amazon were local bit-players, there would be no issue raised by their collective de-platforming of the President and his insurrectionist followers. Their actions would be 'civic society at its best'. Local groups standing against state tyranny!) 8/
In a sense the solution is obvious: COMMUNITY IS FOR LOSERS! (I added that. Jacob doesn't say it.) If you are a small group, in the shadow of larger groups, you tight-knitting together in a community - collective mutual protection against larger groups - is wholly in order. 9/
But once you ARE the Big Guy, you start to look like the Bad Guy. Big is bad. Because now people can't 'exit' from you, easily. You foot-stomp everywhere. And people who aren't 'in' you are still in your shadow, uncomfortably. 10/
We as a society have evolved a collective moral instinct that small-is-good, big-is-bad, as a way of threading the rationalist-pluralist needle. The cracks only show when a group gets Big. But this instinct has not expressed, healthily, as a policy of keeping groups small. 11/
It has expressed, unhealthily, as paranoid style cultural politics. Everyone, in order to legitimate their group, has to cast their group as David (US) vs. Goliath (THEM). Victimology becomes obligatory for healthy, card-carrying groupishness. This is not healthy! 12/
We have identity politics. And, in order to feel justified in having our identities, being - essentially - a victim of the other side has to be baked right in. 'No thick community without whining about the other side's impunity!' 13/
This is not to say that no one is really a victim! I'm a liberal because I think leftist grievances are, broadly, valid, deserving redress, and right-wing grievances are, mostly, absurd and bogus trolling and flopping for the ref. 14/
I picked my side because my side has right and justice on its side. No flabby relativism for me, no thanks! 15/
But I have one drop of sympathy for conservatives playing the victim card, absurdly, and it is this: liberalism itself nudges them into doing that, as a condition of feeling entitled to their (dominant!) group identities, which they want to keep! Everyone likes their family! end/

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13 Jan
The drama of 'lawful evil cleric joins party of chaotic neutral thieves for profit' has played out more than once this admin. (Jeff Sessions.) Such moral tragedy provokes audiences to ask: how to be true to law, in a crisis, yet without abandoning evil? nytimes.com/2021/01/12/us/…
OK, joking aside, do I really think Pence is evil? Like, EVIL-evil? He and I don't just have policy disagreements? Let's ask, instead: why does it make perfect sense that Jeff Sessions and Mike Pence would both get in bed with Trump, and both find the experience so debasing?
The short answer is that Pence and Sessions are not that different from Trump in SOME ways, though they are his opposite in OTHERS. (This is not a truth caught by Gary Gygax's moral compass.)
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11 Jan
So I get off the news to go read about heresies - no kidding! - and, just before I go, this - THIS!
So Belle and I are like, is Pelagianism top 10 heresy material? Y/N?

Me: hey, Siri, what are the top-10 Christian heresies?
Siri: I found this on the web.

news.fordham.edu/inside-fordham…
My pics were, off the top of my head:

Lutheranism (call it Protestantism)
Arianism
Gnosticism
Deism
Pantheism (Spinozism)
Donatism
Catharism (Albigensianism)
Pelagianism
Universalism

And then I kind of got stumped.
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11 Jan
McCarthy thinks Trump deserves to be impeached. Image
But also that Trump shouldn't get what he deserves. It's so little! a few days! But the same consideration should cut the other way: it's so little. Just a few days. Why not do the right thing? Image
Because the R base wants Congress NOT to do the right thing, is why. But is that a good reason not to do the right thing, on a basic point of principle? McCarthy is basically saying: our base won't tolerate their reps upholding the constitution. Well, what should leaders do?
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theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trump-c… OK. The good thing is: he admits Trump should be impeached. That's good. Image
And good on him for apologizing to the Never Trumpers. Image
But he needs to work on this part. Image
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11 Jan
In other words: two dueling narratives.
1) Trump understandably tried to stop what much evidence suggests was the theft of the election; and heroic constitutional conservatives like Cruz and Hawley stood by him, although, tragically, patriotic protests went over the line. 1/
2) Trump is a mentally ill seditionist; accusations of election theft are baseless. No reason to suppose the election was other than fair and free, hence cynical attempts to cast doubt, for profit, are, at best, para-fascist LARPing for profit. The base: lots of rubes & thugs. 2/
Does Twitter have an obligation to be agnostic between 1 & 2, merely because 2) is the line one major party, the D's, is taking, but the other party, the R's, even though its leaders know 2) is true, needs to save face by feigning 1) has merit? 2) is too insulting to the base! 3/
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If you want to break up Big Tech, propose an even-handed, muscular response to monopoly danger. Dust off anti-trust, roll up your sleeves and get to work. Great! But don't just whine about how you can't get away with being an awful troll, but the Ayatollahs are on Twitter. 1/ Image
Both can be true:
1) Twitter should not get to decide who speaks, in the whole world.
2) If you conduct yourself with bare, civic decency, respecting baseline norms and ideals all citizens of an advanced liberal democracy should share, Twitter currently won't ban you! 2/
Conservatives look at the low bar of 2 and shriek, 'there's no way we can clear THAT, we're conservatives! If we're politicians, the base will have our hides for that!' That is ALSO a problem, in addition to the real problem that Twitter shouldn't police the speech world. 3/
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