1/ Thanks to @BBCr4today for having me on to discuss data collection on sex and why it matters. This follows the extraordinary claim by Scotland's Chief Statistician, Roger Halliday, that sex should typically not be asked unless there is a medical reason.
2/ In fact, those of us who use quantitative data overwhelmingly believe that sex is important. It matters across a wide range of domains: education, wages, crime, political attitudes, religion - you name it, sex is almost always a big predictor!
3/ Sex and gender identity are two different things, and gender identity is not a clarly defined concept. Ciaran McFadden Young (who is not a quantitative social scientist as far as I can see) claimed that sex doesn't matter, effectively it is always trumped by gender identity.
4/ This is a remarkable claim, but it is a testable claim, if we collect data on both sex and gender identity. If we can't collect the data, then we will never be able to test this hypothesis. And perhaps that's the point.
5/ Ciaran also claimed that is has been proven that post-transition MtF transwomen earn the same as women.It was frustrating not to have a chance to challenge this claim, which I find implausible. I'd be very interested to see the research referred to @dr_ciaran
6/ Finally, a point I didn't get a chance to make: public bodies have changed their data collection practices in response to lobbying by organisations such as Stonewall, who have also lobbied for the removal of sex as a protected characteristic under UK law.
7/ They have not actively consulted the community of quantitative social scientists who use data to understand social problems and social trends. In fact they have disregarded our views. This risks bringing public statistics into disrepute.
Listen from around 1.50 bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0…
A tiny correction: I was introduced as being from the @ucl Sociology department. In fact I am at the UCL Social Research Institute @UCLSocRes . (UCL doesn't have a Sociology department in fact).
If you want to read more on sex, gender identity and data collection: tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.108…
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13 Jan
1/ As the Times reports sex is wiped from official data: our submission to @Commonswomequ on the availability of accurate sex-based data is now online. With @OxSoc @AmandaGosling3 @TaraniChandola @profnallum. committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidenc…
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3 Aug 20
1/ I was pleased to see a prominent transactivist acknowledge recently that the slogan "trans women are women" leads to dogmatism rather than nuanced discussion, and interested by her claim that the slogan became "a thing" in 2016. Is that right? I ran an ngram.
2/ First use according to this dates from 2000, with an increase in usage from around 2012. The earliest book reference using the phrase that I could find is from 2006. But is this really the first key reference? Let me know in comments if you know an earlier one.
3/ Here's one from 2011, when the phrase is starting to take off.
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24 Jul 20
1/ This article replies to the responses to my article on “Sex and the Census: Why surveys should not conflate sex and gender identity“.
2/ Fugard conflates sex itself with the characteristics associated with sex, such as finger length ratios, leading to the erroneous implication that binary sex is not a useful explanatory variable.
3/ Hines fundamentally misrepresents my article, claiming that I have argued against asking respondents to the 2021 Census about their gender identity. In fact I make clear that information on gender identity is useful, but cannot replace data on sex.
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11 Jun 20
Dear @Keir_Starmer , Labour Party women have been waiting a long time to talk to you about misogynist abuse and silencing of women in the party and beyond. Perhaps now would be a good time for you to give us a hearing.
J.K. Rowling has been a major @UKLabour party donor. She's written about the abuse that women face for saying that sex is real, and that it is an important social category. Will you read what she has to say? #IStandWithJKR jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-r…
You might also be interested to see the level of abuse that J.K. Rowling has faced, just for stating her concerns as a woman. Do you think this looks like the behaviour of a progressive movement? Or does it look more like misogyny? medium.com/@rebeccarc/j-k…
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28 May 20
1/ Kudos to the editors of @TheIJSRM for holding a debate on "Sex and the Census", and to @inductivesteps and @sally_hines for taking part. Excellent that it is #freetodownload. Please read and RT! Open debate is the way forward #academicfreedom #sex #gender #statistics
2/ My paper argues that it is vital not to muddle sex and gender identity. Sex is a vital demographic variable, and gender identity should be asked as a separate question. tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.10…
3/ In response, Andi Fugard puts the case for 'sex is a spectrum'. I disagree, but I found it really useful to see this argument spelled out tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.10…
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24 May 20
1/ I was de-platformed by a research methods seminar after speaking out about proposed guidance on the sex question on the 2021 Census which suggests respondents can answer in terms of their identity where this clashes with their sex.
2. I have just published a paper on the measurement of sex and gender identity in the International Journal of Research Methodology. Readers can judge for themselves whether hearing these views would have "risked harm" to audience members. tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.10…
3/ It was a difficult decision to go public with the fact that I have been de-platformed. The accusation of anti-trans views used to justify this is an abhorrent smear. I hope that sharing the experience will allow lessons to be learned.
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