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guys should I watch all the hobbit movies tonight -R

all right guys, I've watched each of these movies only once before, when they were released in theaters. I remember them becoming progressively less enjoyable and more boring. Tonight let's find out if that's a fair assessment! -R

cheeky leading with the Shire theme to get us hooked on nostalgia right from the beginning

points for showing female dwarves in the market of Dale! points off for not giving them beards

Setting-wise, I really do love that Middle Earth is just utterly saturated with magic. Dig deep enough in a mountain and you might find a magical mountain-heart rock, why not? Dig deeper and awake a great beast of shadow and flame!

I do remember thinking "thorin is too human-handsome in this" and I stand by that

so is Kili but we all know that's so they could sell him in the love triangle

Thorin: HELP US
Thranduil: bitch it's a dragon and I'm riding a moose what do you want from me

framing The Hobbit as a book Bilbo is writing directly to Frodo unfortunately makes a lot of the exposition make exactly NO sense. like thanks bilbo I really needed to know what my house is

nice of them to really leverage the fact that elijah wood is an ageless ethereal being

martin freeman and ian mckellen are really selling their lines but maybe, just maybe this intro scene didn't need to be adapted word for word from the book after we already had a slow-paced ten-minute intro scene tying into the opening of LotR

starring martin freeman, costarring martin freeman's beleaguered facial expressions

do I think the pacing is slow because I've already seen the movie and I know I've got seven more hours ahead of me, or is the pacing actually slow

Bilbo is kind of a supporting character in his own story, which is a fun bit of framing, but I think this movie is struggling a bit to make it work, because the joke of the first twenty minutes is Nobody Tells Bilbo Anything and frankly at this point that doesn't make sense to do

Thorin being all "I won't be responsible for his safety or his ultimate fate" makes him seem like a terrible future king, and Gandalf being all "sounds fair c:" makes HIM seem like a very irresponsible friend

I know Thorin is supposed to be an asshole but Gandalf's "a little adventure will be good for you" quirkiness really isn't weighty enough to counterbalance how the adventure in question is near-certain death and his chosen companions clearly don't care about protecting him

LotR was an adventure that was incredibly harrowing and perilous and Gandalf was clearly very concerned for Frodo's safety and future, and the Fellowship was wholely dedicated to protecting them in their mission. They cared about each other, and that really sold the story.

In contrast, the Hobbit was more comedic and light-hearted, and part of that was that the Dwarves were almost non-characters and didn't particularly have individual characters. They didn't care about Bilbo, and were regularly surprised that he survived stuff. Different tone.

Basically, applying the epic, emotional tone of LotR to the Hobbit just highlights how actually shitty this arrangement is for Bilbo and how comparatively irresponsible Gandalf seems for volunteering him into it

Using the song of the lonely mountain to signal the tone shift and make it clear that these goofy dwarves are actually kinda serious is great. Only problem - Thorin was already being treated as the Token Serious Dwarf and his arrival already shifted the tone. Impact is lost.

Imagine if Thorin had just come along with the others (like he did in the book) and the goofy tone wasn't broken by the map reveal and the dragon conversation, and THEN the goofy plate-chucking dwarves go full acapella and you're like "oh… this quest matters a lot to them"

it's like every time something funny happens thorin has to be like "guys no >:( serious, remember? like LotR"

sure is a lot of daylight happening in this ork flashback

I've observed a rhythm in this movie. Twice now, Gandalf or one of the dwarves will exposit something about a character and it'll then cut away to someone proving them wrong

"the pale ork is definitely dead and not holding a grudge"
"GOSH I SURE LOVE BEING AN ORK SERVING MY EVIL BOSS WHO HATES THESE DWARVES SPECIFICALLY"

"radagast is a gentle soul with no problems in life"
"MY HEDGEHOG HAS BEEN POISONED BY DARK SORCERY"

it's time for the Thorin Angsty Butthurt Hour!

this troll scene has Comedy Music playing so it must be a token Funny Scene but instead of using any of the actual comedy from the book it's just 100% toilet humor

digging this orchestral version of the song of the lonely mountain for the dwarf fight though

oh hey, one hour in we get the first funny scene with bilbo trying to persuade the trolls to not eat the dwarves

in one scene Thorin is the only one who realizes Bilbo is playing for time and quiets down the others, and in the very next scene he complains that Bilbo didn't do anything to help

Narnia and the Hobbit really made me overestimate how often I would be given random weaponry

on the other hand, my friends DO keep buying me knives

Turning Gandalf's random sidequests into Sauronshadowing isn't the worst idea, but it does make this movie drag on even more

sure are a lot of orks chasing radagast in broad daylight

I'm not sure how to strictly quantify the difference between an engaging action scene and one that feels like a needlessly overcomplicated way to get from point A to point B, but all these fight scenes feel strongly like the second

it's just a lot of hitting bad guys with stuff idk man

I know that describes all fight scenes but I've seen lots of action scenes that DON'T feel like that so what the heck

Thorin: I hate elves I hate them I hate everything about them and I especially hate their stupid hidden valley
Elrond:

you know what the problem is? Thorin is a cut-price Aragorn, and I liked that character better when he was Boromir and the fact that he was a cut-price Aragorn was the whole POINT.

Aragorn is a perfect True King In Hiding. He's noble, honorable and fiercly protective, even though he's a bit rough and worries he's unworthy and doomed to fail. Boromir is the arrogant, unworthy character filling his seat while he's gone. That's his fundamental tragedy.

Thorin is also arrogant, and one could argue he's a classic tragic hero, while Aragorn is a classic arthurian hero. Aragorn is fundamentally noble, while Thorin and Boromir are both that unique kind of selfish where their selfishness is on behalf of their people.

Boromir is Aragorn's perfect foil, and that's why the ring corrupts him so quickly. That's why his character is actually compelling. He's an arrogant dickhead but he does really want to do the right thing, and he dies heroically to redeem himself after falling to the ring.

Thorin has the bloodline of the true king, but his motives are selfish and his arrogance isn't contrasted by any foils. In the book, this is because it's a punchline for most of the story, but in the movie it's played straight - so he's just a dick.

they just did a discount council of rivendell btw it's just really boring

anyway yeah thorin's problem is he's structured like a tragic hero but they don't actually want to tell that story - the story of an arrogant, hubristic character who pushes on through danger is the story of a man who self-destructs. Instead they want him to be Aragorn-Lite…

and Aragorn isn't a tragic hero, he's a HERO hero. Aragorn succeeds in the end, and his quiet nobility and the respect he commands SERVES that narrative structure. Applying the same effect to Thorin "Arrogant Dick" Oakenshield, in contrast, causes an internal narrative conflict.

"My brother, my captain, my king" ≠ "I saw Thorin bloodily avenge his dead father and it was cool as fuck, now THERE is a man I could call king"

In this movie, Thorin's arc is supposed to be being less of an arrogant dick and learning to appreciate Bilbo. His overarching arc, however, is a tragic downfall - "gold sickness" or not, once he gets power it goes to his head. For that fall to have impact, we have to care!

Book Thorin is pretty solidly unlikable all the way through, but the movie's aiming to build him up more to be sympathetic. If that was the goal, giving him an arc that starts with "hella unsympathetic" is an unhelpful way to do it.

hmm… I'm generally not one for the "these guys are coded as Fantasy Jews" angle but I gotta say all this stuff about the dwarvish diaspora and being fundamentally nationless is making me reconsider that assessment just a smidge

is it possible for the cgi to get noticeably worse in the same movie because DANG these goblins are a mess

oh hey smeagol you're looking moisturized

do you think bilbo and frodo talk about smeagol after they sail into the west? like "yeah turns our he used to be a hobbit like us" "he WHAT? good gracious, it's a good thing you got rid of that nasty thing"

smeagol why the fuck are you all "ooo never had hobbitses before is it tasty" bitch you ARE hobbitses

is it weird that I can kinda recognize andy serkis through the cgi

it's an egg you dusty bitch

yea this is the best scene in the movie

somehow gollum going feral is the scariest thing in the movie, despite him being the smallest, least physically imposing antagonist

every fight scene in this movie could be written in the script as [they fight a bunch of bad guys while moving from point A to point B]

this whole goblin bit almost looks like they were trying to use Del Toro's storyboards for this part

he's a big fan of glowy cave designs with lots of verticality

oh NOW the bad guys can't stand daylight

the real fantastical part of this movie is all these dwarves maintaining their pristine hairstyles through all these shenanigans

genuine props to how they handled bilbo's first kill in the movie, he looks totally shocked and doesn't even try to keep his grip on the sword when the worg falls away from him

gandalf summoned his buddy, mothrax, the lord of butterflies

oh right, I remember this scene, inexplicably using classic nazghul-fighting music for this jobber ork bad guy

if this is supposed to be Thorin's hero moment for the movie, then - hear me out - wouldn't it make more sense for his arc for him to be taking this suicidally heroic risk to try and protect the others, maybe specifically bilbo, rather than Still Yet More Arrogance?

the fact that it's bilbo running in to rescue him for like the fourth time in the movie is a dang disservice

and he's not even trying to help the others stuck on the tree he's just like "oh man learning you killed my dad really rustles my jimmies time for stabbing"

this movie has pulled the "thorin didn't care but surprise now he cares" twist like three times now and it is not working for me

"I do believe the worst is behind us!" oh honey I WISH

good lord that was taxing

all right if I'm gonna deal with Hobbit 2 This One Does The Love Triangle Thing I'm gonna need to make some goddamn hashbrowns first

do we really need to open this movie with thorin recapping his backstory and dad-based motivation

this might be the extended edition, which in the case of this trilogy seems like a bad decision

"There is a house near here we might take refuge."
"Whose house is it? Friend or foe?"

sorry but legit why would you even consider the foe option, like yea we're just gonna crash on morgoth's couch for the night

oh man, I think some of these cgi environments were rendered weird, lignting-wise - this one shot just felt like an optical illusion, my eyes actively refocused to figure out I was looking at a bridge and not a tunnel

god this is already so slow and dumb

sure, this movie needed more comedy and to be less like LotR, but could this "all the dwarves slowly come out of Bjorn'e house" scene be any more tortuously paced

man this azog the defiler guy sure is evil and fond of horribly killing people's families, kind of surprising nobody ever brings him up later

they're reeeeally leaning on this Sauron Is Back angle, which makes sense but really really isn't helping with the tonal shenanigans

gandalf's leaving the movie and won't even take me with him smh

this forest is disorienting and slow-moving and they're really immersing me with how utterly disengaged I am

"This is taking too long. Is there no end to this accursed forest?!"

these hashbrowns are really good at least

"And the lonely mountain! We're almost there!" yeah I wish

I like how bilbo can understand the spiders while wearing the ring, it's a cheeky bit of foreshadowing that there's more to it than turning invisible

of course making him maim a spider for it, then hold it up and say "mine" is a significantly less cheeky bit of foreshadowing

oh hey legolas, still surfing on shit I see

girlboss elf alert

This love triangle hurts me in many ways but one of the more petty stings is that there's something very out of character for Legolas being too catty to acknowledge that Kili is the most elf-looking dwarf ever born

thorin continues to make his life significantly harder by rejecting offers of help from prettyboy elves

k did we ever learn what was up with thranduil's face

balin: there is a man I could call king
thorin: I told thranduil to go fuck himself so now we're in prison forever
balin:

ok do you think they cast Kili as this beautiful man before or after they decided to put him in a love triangle

when I first saw him I was like "ah, this is so when he dies it stings more because the fangirls get invested" and then they had him start flirting and I was like "orrrr for this other reason?"

you know what this comedic barrel escape scene needed? more swordfights

oh wait this is fanfic

truly, isn't it every girl's dream to rescue a dreamy boy from an army of orks and then gently tend to his wounds

ok the hobbit was mostly light-hearted and chill because there WEREN'T many fights, not because the five million fights were cartoonishly ridiculous

meanwhile over at gandalf's sidequest

oh yeah, this movie was really missing radagast

"ARHHHHHH i'm fine it's nothing"

kinda smart of them to introduce Bard as a very skilled marksman, even if it WAS in a brief unnecessary fight scene

"You like death? Then let me give it to you" may not be the WORST one-liner, but I'd put it in the top twenty

hang on, why did we all just accept that Legolas is a jerk now

legolas "you would die before your stroke fell" greenleaf was not missing this character arc

legolas being in this story makes sense, but legolas was more of a sheltered himbo type in the original. why would he be MORE jaded and dickish in the prequel?

elves don't mature on a short-enough timescale for Legolas's personality to have changed between these movies

think how much more effective it'd have been if legolas spent the whole movie as the broadly inoffensive no-thoughts-head-empty And My Bow boy we got to know so much better in LotR, broadly pleasant but kind of ethereal and checked out of his environment

what dingus in the writing room looked at the snarky experienced warrior dwarf and the handsome ethereal blond elf and decided to make LEGOLAS the Bad Boy leg of the love triangle

big fan of this bit where the fisherpeople help hide the dwarves from the guards with basically no prompting, we love to see sympathetic background characters demonstrate agency

everyone is such a dick in this movie, which is a very strange way to emulate lord of the rings, a movie known for its relentlessly hopeful tone and themes of camaraderie

this whole mob scene feels like it belongs in an entirely different movie

they did do a slightly clever perspective shift, though - when Bard shows up like "no actually this is bad cuz prophecy" we're not 100% sure we like him yet, but then when the master of laketown is like "hell yeah I love these dwarves" it's like, ahh, this might be bad actually

it takes some narrative work to make an audience believe that the objective they've been aiming for all story might actually be bad, but making the grossest characters in the plot advocate for it is pretty convinving

Bard: nah man get outta here I've had enough of dwarves
Bofur: please help Kili's very sick
Bard: oh shit the hot one? yeah bring him in

you know who hasn't had a lot to do so far in this movie? the main goddamn character

christ this movie has an hour left

thrain's alive?? this is DEFINITELY the extended cut

hm, with the new framing that there's prophecies out the ass about reclaiming erebor being a Bad Thing, this really just makes Gandalf seem even WORSE in this series

yea bilbo gandalf sent you on a highly dangerous deadly adventure against your will and it was a terrible idea everyone knew would kill a city and bring doom and destruction

on the other hand, this scene with the dwarves starting to panic and despair when the keyhole fails to appear before the sun sets is genuinely heartbreaking

…jaded question, do you think they tried to play up the Bilbo-Thorin BROTP in this movie to try and recapture the magic of the Sam-Frodo dynamic?

good news, bilbo, the movie's about you again! bad news, go deal with the dragon

did

did this fucking movie

put a GODDAMN wilhelm scream

on the TRAGIC DEATH OF THRAIN SON OF THROR

I had to go back and check

they DID

holy fuck I'm legitimately in awe

sauron's official entrance two minutes later pales in comparison to that masterwork of tragic cinema

which fucking editor had the audacity to splice that in I need to know I want a NAME

cheeky that bilbo removing a cup from the pile is what causes smaug to stir, considering this whole thing is based on that happening in beowulf

gandalf: bilbo is an excellent choice for a thief because hobbits are very stealthy and smaug won't recognize his smell
smaug: G R E E T I N G S S T A N K Y B I T C H

this scene is great for two reasons only
-martin freeman is allowed to actually act and he's really almost funniest when he's not acting opposite anyone
-smaug's voice filter is really satisfying to listen to

they should have benedict cumberbatch read the audiobook with the smaug vocal filter on

thorin has pivoted back to not caring about bilbo, like clockwork

this scene is still fun but it miiiiiight be going on a bit long without really moving anything along

oh I get it, they WERE trying to recapture the Sam-Frodo dynamic, but the made Bilbo the Sam in this equation and Thorin being corrupted by the Arkenstone is supposed to mirror Frodo's growing exhaustion and corruption from the ring

which really just tells me the writer who pulled that together didn't get why THAT dynamic worked as well as it did

legit how are they even fitting all these dead orks in this one tiny house

seriously are we supposed to sympathize with thorin or not because he's been nothing but a dick to the point of threatening bilbo with a dang sword but they keep framing him as this noble hero-king

like I know THAT was framed as a bad thing, but it's like all his Being A Dick moments are being treated as Strangely Out-Of-Character and he's Better Than That, only we never see him do anything OTHER than that

it's like he's suffering from the worf effect, but instead of being bitchslapped into a wall while we're assured he's a Powerful Warrior, he's doing shitty selfish things nonstop while we're assured he's a Heroic Noble King

kili's delirious romantic speech would be more compelling if I could focus on anything but the fact that he's resting his head on a pile of loose walnuts

boy smaug really doesn't wanna kill any of these guys huh

"FLEE FOR YOUR LIVES! I WILL CONTINUE TO STOMP MENACINGLY AROUND YOU AND SNAKE MY HEAD AROUND COLUMNS INSTEAD OF SETTING YOU ON FIRE WITH MY FACE"

legolas punched an ork before whacking his head into a pillar and it feels so wrong

I don't mine Legolas having a little "…blood? I'm bleeding? Like some sort of MORTAL?" moment but there's something very off about the choreography of that scuffle

it should be a powerful moment when an elegant in-control warrior is thrown off-balance and resorts to brute force and I feel like it really wasn't earned with Unnamed Ork Scrub #6

just realized my problem with this whole Smaug In Erebor scene and it's that I don't believe for a second these characters are in any danger

thorin jumped off a cliff! and he caught a pulley thing and ziplined away. smaug breathed fire at them! but it's okay they hid behind a metal pillar and fire only hurts if it touches you etc etc

so much of these movies' runtime feels like we're just burning time until the next thing that advances the plot happens

right now we're just burning time until smaug stops playing around and busts out of the mountain to burn laketown. We know it's gonna happen. There was a prophecy and everything.

this gold statue plan still makes no sense to me

and BIG missed opportunity not letting smaug's pupils go all Silly Mode when he saw it

artist's rendering of what could have been

all right no time to waste it's fire o' clock

see this really just drives home how patently ridiculous it is that smaug didn't kill them all in the mountain

smaug's got impeccable vision, picking out the only protagonist in town to start monologuing at

I've accidentally sliced my forearm with the fletching on a normal arrow before so I really feel like that kid shouldn't have a clavicle anymore

good work team

is it possible to be allergic to love triangles because this one is causing me physical pain

the masters of laketown have biiiig Dune Movie Harkonnen energy. like I think the audience is intelligent enough to know these guys are antagonists without also making them cartoonishly ugly and gross

they saw Grima Wormtongue and were like "this guy's got the right idea"

oh noooo thorin's a jerk again

and he was doing so well, he'd barely threatened anyone with a sword in like three whole hours

if you plot out thorin's character arc in these movies it'd have as much vertical lift as a kid running with two paper airplanes

oh no wait I just realized, this WHOLE love triangle is someone's Y/N self-insert fanfiction

and we're talking early-2000s quality here, where everyone's out-of-character to play to the writer's taste in guys

here's a dead giveaway: "I'm being banished? well… it is my duty to obey" "NO tauriel if you go I GO"

The trick is the love interest aggressively stands up for the character who should probably by all rights be standing up for herself. It's not in character for either of them.

It's a very specific trope that plays on the self-insert desire to feel protected and wanted, rather than independently strong. Tauriel is clearly established to disregard authority when necessary, but in order for the trope to play out, she needs to forget all that.

you know, I can't say I ever got the impression that Galadriel's spooky photo-negative mode was, like, an evil powerup mode

anyway tauriel's whole love triangle situation pulls all THREE of them out of character, making Tauriel aggressive around Kili and meek so Legolas will rise to her defense, in the process making him a stock angry protective bad boy a far cry from the himbo we recognize

no wonder it feels so weird, it straight-up doesn't fit any of the characters in it - they're being pushed into stock romantic roles that don't fit their personalities. That's another dead giveaway that we're watching bad fanfiction. The characters are overridden.

oh gosh, I can't believe Thorin would be so heartless as to abandon the people he turned a dragon loose on, he seemed like such a swell dude until now

Balin: the gold is making Thorin a selfish dickhead, truly it is the tragedy of Durin's line, he's far from the king I recognize
Bilbo:

they seriously hung the whole trilogy on Thorin's character arc and then forgot to give him one

tbh thorin's point about bargaining while desperate is a solid one, but his conclusion of "now that YOU'RE desperate we WON'T bargain" loops back around to being a real dick move

"one of them is FALSSSSE" okay guys I get it but every macguffin cannot be the one ring

this whole movie has two more plot beats and we are now officially just wasting time until we get there:
-Thorin learns Bilbo has the Arkenstone
-the five armies battle

"they have forgotten the great earth-eaters, because goodness knows middle earth doesn't have enough interesting monsters, we need to steal shit from Dune now"

"If anything moves on that mountain, kill it" says Thranduil, five minutes before Bilbo strolls up to his tent after leaving said mountain with zero difficulty

speaking of Thranduil, he's definitely kind of a dick but I also feel like he's being played as even MORE of a dick than the writing actually supports. he's doing that disney villain aesthetic without the actual malice to back it up

bilbo has NO REASON to think dwarves are "loyal to a fault" at this point and I genuinely don't understand why the movie thinks I won't notice Thorin has tried to abandon or betray him at literally every opportunity

Bard: you can have the arkenstone if you honor your word and give us what you promised for our help
Thorin:

Dain: If he stands between me and my kin I'll split his pretty head open!
Thranduil:

I think the guys making this movie needed someone to remind them that fight scenes - especially army battles - are almost never actually engaging because of the combat

We're engaged because we care about:
-what they're fighting for
-the safety and victory of an individual person we're following through the fight
-the character dynamics on display

Usually not because we care about:
-how many cgi dudes you put in there
-how shaky the camera is

oh no thranduil fell off his moose

how will we signal that this war is going badly? hear me out - what if we
-slow the footage down to about 70%
-muffle the diagetic audio
-crank up the mournful strings in the background music

genius

sort of hard to unsee that thorin's fall from grace into this Unrecognizable Monster was a gentle step down from his already shitty personality

"all right richard we need you to look vaguely disoriented at the camera for about a solid minute - don't worry, we'll play back tons of significant audio snippets over it to make it meaningful"

Thorin, staring at Smaug's shadow in the pool of gold:

calm down, Kili, can't you see Thorin is wearing his old clothes meaning he's a good person now?

when I undergo character development I always start by changing my pants

the directors were like "we don't have an I Am No Man girlboss moment in this one cuz the Hobbit cast is only guys - maybe we can let the women of laketown run off to fight, but to save on postage can we not actually show them kicking ass?"

Thorin, Fili and Kili all in one place near the end of this movie? highly unwise

"This situation is highly suspicious. Fili, take your brother and scout out the towers."

Oh that's quite cool, in Ring-o-vision the elves are all radiant white while the orks are shadowy and vague

Tauriel Refuses To Stand Up For Herself So Legolas Can Do It Instead Part 2: Electric Boogaloo

ironically, Legolas is the one who will someday learn what it is to love a dwarf

listen you don't smuggle a mortal onboard to sail out to the lands of the west because you're Kinda Friends From Work

Thorin: Do it. We'll live to fight another day.
Tolkien:

welp, bye fili

whenever someone says "these things are bred only for one thing:" it always ends up being "war" but I suggest we start mixing it up a little

these bats are bred only for one thing: entry-level accounting jobs

highly effective cashiering

artisanal coffee brewing

welp, bye kili

aragorn was raised by elves, right? do you guys think defying the laws of physics is a genetic elf trait or an environmental one

legolas hanging out with mini-aragorn like "and now we'll just run along these falling rocks to use them as a bridge c:" and mini-aragorn's like "……ok?"

"elrond, legolas is telling me to defy the laws of physics again"
"well, did you?"
"…yea"
"good job son"

thorin chucking the heavy rock weapon at the ork boss guy so he'd catch it and fall through the ice is the best part of the choreography so far

wasn't part of the original tragedy of the story that the entire line of Durin dies out because of Thorin's hubris? Kinda reframes his whole heroic sacrifice to kill Azog as more "part of the problem" than "culmination of heroic arc"

there must be something about death scenes that makes characters way easier to write sympathetically during them

thorin: sorry I was such a dick… go back… to your books… you… nerd…
bilbo: he truly was the best of us

Thranduil: go north, there is a young ranger some call "Strider" - but he's at most fourteen right now so don't take it too seriously, he probably picked it out himself
Legolas: he will be my bestie
Thranduil: sure

nice of thranduil to validate tauriel's feelings I guess

what is it about the characters in this trilogy choosing the last possible moment to finally act even the tiniest bit likable

Gandalf: soooo, how was that adventure?
Bilbo: deeply traumatic
Gandalf: that's the spirit

Decades later, after passing into the West, Frodo casually mentions that Balin died in Moria and Bilbo does a full spit-take and yells "Not Balin! He was the only one of those fellows with a personality!"

hang the fuck on, when did Bilbo ever tell Gandalf about the ring? he just suddenly mentioned a "by the way don't worry about it I totally dropped it" and Gandalf was like "ho ho ho… let's never discuss this again"

he's home from the adventure and this movie should be over and instead there's at least ten minutes to go

cheeky to loop it back to the beginning of the original movies though

oh hey, good news, apparently those ten minutes are all credits

y'all knew this gif was coming