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25 Jan, 40 tweets, 9 min read
1 My best attempt to live tweet...

Robert Bigelow on @coasttocoastam with @g_knapp:

Related link:

bigelowinstitute.org
2 Bigelow: "There's no way I would buy a used car from that guy." That guy being the (false) Bigelow everybody has an image of on social media.

Connection between UFOs & Life After Death

RB: Well documented stories where one person in crowd can see the UFO and others cannot.
3 Or, the UFO drifts away but person asks (in their head) for it to come back and it does. Seems to be a consciousness connection.

When he was three years old, his grandparents had a close encounter (near Mt. Charleston) where his grandfather wouldn't talk to him about it &
4 grandmother would only talk about little bits & pieces. His mom told him about it when he was 9 or 10. His mom & grandparents had a daylight sighting of a large craft near the mountains. Not sure if this is 2 separate incidents.

It happened in May of 1947, 2 months b4 Roswell.
4 Did his grandparents have more than just a sighting? Maybe an abduction? Bigelow has studied abductions. His grandfather needed time to recoup himself after the encounter before he could drive back to LV. His grandparents arrived back home late.
5 It was so profound and they thought they were going to die from an impact. Craft filled up entire windshield and then zipped off to the side. Maybe have been more to the encounter but no way to know for sure. Wish he had been able to talk to them about it.
6 Started having about a half dozen dreams after that around seven-years old. 1951-1952. Repetitive dreams. Little men show up in his room & he's laying sideways on a twin bed. Three little figures and he can't make out any facial features or appendages. Dress in monk-like garb.
7 Same dream over and over but not sure if it was more than a. dream. Had to confront death multiple times in his life. His dad died when he (RB) was 18 in a private plane crash and then lost his son and then grandson. He had been studying life after death and it was comforting.
8 He went to three mediums. One (George Anderson) helped him and his wife deal with the loss. He also lost his wife last year.

Does our consciousness survive death and if so, what is it like on the other side?

The ET and survival of consciousness field is so vast, and if
9 u read some of the best material on the subjects (& avoid the goofy stuff), u can learn a lot about the quality of evidence that exists. U can dismiss explanations like "swamp gas" when it comes to UFOs (Hynek). He's frustrated @ folks who don't bother 2 read the literature.
10 At 13, he was hooked & decided to find ways to make money so he could pursue these subjects (UFOs & related subjects) full time.

NIDS 2 missions: Are we alone? Does our consciousness survive death? It was 2 much to tackle both subjects @ the same time. Majority of NIDS folks
11 decided 2 focus on UFOs. RB believes most of the NIDS folks had their own personal reasons for studying both of these subjects

Beginning of NIDS, he (& probably staff) weren't aware of connection between UFOs and consciousness. Started having crossover in early experiments.
12 What kind of power is there through human thought? And when you DO start to communicate, who/what are you communicating with? Mentions remote viewing, micro-PK and Bob Jahn and Brenda Dunne, NDEs. Collecting info. while ur brain dead. What is the mind? No schools study this.
13 This consists of multiple fields that we don't know much about.

BICS is interested in doing research to try to learn. We're student & never stop learning. Trying to do something that helps the research. Help other people in various ways. Trying to stimulate interest. Hoping
14 to be able to generate some really interesting essays that attempt to produce features you would call evidence or proof...behind a reasonable doubt, like in our court system. Doesn't have to be 100% sure. Maybe people will read these essays & it will cause them to think &
15 wonder & maybe it will help them contribute to the field.

Can't take all the evidence (on life after death and UFOs) in all at once. It can be overwhelming. It is really amazing the more and more you dig into it and explore it, the more holy cow it becomes.

Knapp: As you
16 GK: learn about this material, you want to preach it.

Bigelow: For the contest, you can't just quote Biblical scripture. Need a way to produce proof, satisfactorily, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the other side exists. Priests & Rabbis can enter contest but don't just quote
17 quote scripture. Need more than that.

Bigelow has about 4000 books on UFOs and consciousness. scattered in a few different locations. A lot of information is collaborated between multiple authors.

If you have your own experiences and multiple witnesses, that's even better!
18 I'm hopefully we're gonna get some really good essays. We'll put them on our website. Put your pre-conceived notions aside, read the essays & think about the possibilities.

Mentions the amazing work of Ian Stevenson. No way these children should have access to certain info.
19 such as the combination of a safe in the house of the family the kid claims was his family from a previous life.

The first article I read on Ian Stevenson was in WaPo Magazine, written by Tom Shroder.

Read it here:

carolbowman.com/dr-ian-stevens…
20 Essays, including the ones that don't a prize, will be up on the website. They'll encourage the contestants to do interviews with various media outlets. Judges will pick the winners, NOT BICS.

Knapp brings up the investigations that took place in the late 1800s/early 1900s.
21 Top scientists were involved. Wanna learn about this? Read "Ghost Hunters" by Deborah Blum (@deborahblum, who was featured in "Surviving Death" on Neflix)

Talking about person "things" that happened to him and family and colleagues. Even @ralphblu, as he was writing the story
22 on Bigelow for the NYT.

Bigelow - Can chalk it up to serendipity. But what if it happens every day? Where to draw the line as to cause and effect? No idea how to answer that.

I'm kind of a person that needs to have something dramatic happen. if it's minor, I won't pay
22 attention to it. Those have happened to him and others he knows and they were dramatic. Bigelow suggests he come back and tell all those stories on another C2C show. Knapp: How's next Sunday work? :-)

He's thankful he's had these events happen in his life, including before
23 and after Skinwalker Ranch. This includes the last couple of months. He sees these events as gifts.

Hitchhikers, brining "something" home with you. In this case, Skinwalker Ranch. If effected people in a derogatory way. Two were government people and that bothered him.
24 He had no way of stopping it. It also happened to him in his home and other people. So, he decided it was time to move on and sell it.

Knapp: What was it that caused this? We don't know. It was sometimes playful & then it would cut it off & shut it down. ET? Ultraterrestrial?
25 At the ranch, they carried out multiple kinds of experiments, games and picture taking. This intelligence responded to games and requests to show up in photos. "We didn't know who the hell we were communicating with." We had shadows go through walls. Is it a discarnate entity?
26 Or a being that can manifest into a three dimensional structure of a being of some kind when it exits the room. Don't know. Just knew it was bizarre and they (Bigelow and scientists) were not in charge and were just along for the ride.

Many episodes seemed 2 be customized for
27 for a specific person. That person could take that back with them to a specific agency they worked for. Nothing could be more profound for that person. (See my blog on DIA scientist) But who caused it? We were serving at the behest at whatever the phenomenon was.
28 At the ranch, there was primarily photographic evidence and multiple, credible witnesses experiencing these events. We all came away better educated about how little we know & how diverse the events could be & there was a relationship to how u thought & what kind of an event
29 would manifest. At 1st u don't trust that. U have to have it happen multiple times. Personal experiences are important bc u don't forget it so easily when it happens to u.

Knapp: Things happened to ur (RB's) wife, Kelleher's wife & my wife. Whatever this is, follows u around.
30 Knapp: Do you think all of these events in your life are the same intelligence messing with you?

Bigelow: No way to know. These types of experiences go back to before Skinwalker Ranch.

Knapp: Public says you should release all data.

Biglelow: Some of this has to do with
31 promises made to other people. And then we were a contractor to the DIA. We're more revealing than we've ever been.

Knapp: You used to have a website and post papers on there.
32 Knapp brings up the experience the DIA scientist had on #skinwalker ranch.

ufojoe.net/what-dia-scien…
33 Bigelow brings up AAWSAP, Reid, Inouye and Stevens and the courage that @SenatorReid showed. Mentions Tic tac.

Knapp reminds Bigelow that he teased the creation of BAASS and a "partner" (which was the DIA) on C2C back in 2007-2008.

Bigelow, we were on the cusp on something
34 phenomenal if the funding had continued.

Knapp: Folks claim it was a sweetheart deal (Greenewald), which is preposterous.

Bigelow: Not sure if it that kind of effort (AAWSAP) can ever happen again. At least not in my lifetime.
35 NASA that got us to the moon is gone. It's very risk-averse now and a typical government agency. He's basically ripping NASA in its current form. "A very efficient corporation that has a sense of agency, that recognizes money and time matter,
36 and gets things done. Picture that, & NASA is the complete opposite. It's very, very frustrating."

Hi @NASA! :-)

NASA owes him a lot of $$$ on a project that's over & done with & over some other biz. He may have 2 sue them. Never thought that would happen. You don't bite
37 the hand that feeds you but he has no choice, and it's frustrating. Of the $350 million he's spent on NASA-related work, he may have gotten back $35 million.

Right now, treading water and will see what happens in the 4-5 years. He's now really ripping on NASA again.
38 Knapp: Bigelow's concern is China might be waiting for us on the Moon or Mars. China has a huge advantage over America and democracy bc China can make decisions easier. China can go out to the Moon in a shorter time frame and claim resources. {Done}

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Lazar: "I think George Knapp was the first one that uncovered that. I mean, he saw my birth certificate disappear."

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2 Lazar: "Yeah."

Rogan: "There was no record of you being born?"

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(Dec. 20th, 1989 on The Billy Goodman Happening)

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